Re-think Headlight Design

[dleepnw]

I'm not a huge fan of the 4 array headlight design, looks too similar to the ones Porsche uses. Also kinda looks like a merge of the Porsche and Bronco lights. IMO, its not actually that distinctive/iconic.

I do really like how the DRL blends into the side/parking light and the light bar that wraps around the front/rear grille. Very distinctive.

More than that, I'm concerned about how they are inset and there is a "ledge" in front of each light. This is going to accumulate snow and cover the light. LEDs don't generate much heat so its going to melt off. This being an adventure vehicle, a lot folks who live in and travel to places where it snows are not going to be happy about this.

I'd recommend making the headlights flush so there is no ledge, having a heating element or maybe a washer (though this will be least effective).

Update:
Case study - Cybertruck with this issue. Scout, hope you’ve got a plan to accout for this: https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...cumulate-and-block-the-headlights-230818.html

 

[J Alynn]

I think this could become another one of those highly debated preferences, (like the round vs rectangle headlight) but I remember seeing somewhere the wrap around "pass through lighting" (although beautiful I agree) didn't make the final cut because COM was too high.

However I recall seeing the photo below of a Terra at night and I think the lighting was just too much white light for my liking and could really use some amber to break it up. Regardless though, there will be some sort of amber lightning on the side of the vehicle up front because of regulations. Again, I'm sure we all could debate it endlessly, but too each their own.

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That was very bright. The wrap through light didn’t get killed per se-the look will still appear to wrap through but it will be two separate pieces rather than one continuous like the prototypes. So the look will still happen but it will be much easier to assemble and cost less. Always fair to debate and disagree here as we have varying opinions between us all. I will say that for me, that is one of the strongest design cues on front and rear and it creates the equator line they’ve talked about so to me if they split the colors it will really hurt the beauty of the design.

 

[Scout_Lookout]

That was very bright. The wrap through light didn’t get killed per se-the look will still appear to wrap through but it will be two separate pieces rather than one continuous like the prototypes. So the look will still happen but it will be much easier to assemble and cost less. Always fair to debate and disagree here as we have varying opinions between us all. I will say that for me, that is one of the strongest design cues on front and rear and it creates the equator line they’ve talked about so to me if they split the colors it will really hurt the beauty of the design.

At this point I have my full trust in SM that the will produce an absolute stunner that will make all us happy in one way or another. Although I will say the wrap through light was gorgeous and I cant wait to see the final product.

 

[speedrye]

That was very bright. The wrap through light didn’t get killed per se-the look will still appear to wrap through but it will be two separate pieces rather than one continuous like the prototypes. So the look will still happen but it will be much easier to assemble and cost less. Always fair to debate and disagree here as we have varying opinions between us all. I will say that for me, that is one of the strongest design cues on front and rear and it creates the equator line they’ve talked about so to me if they split the colors it will really hurt the beauty of the design.

I agree, with those lights appearing continuous, they need to be the same color, front and side. With the USDOT requiring amber side lights for passenger vehicles, that might dictate the DRL color up front as well.

 

[J Alynn]

I agree, with those lights appearing continuous, they need to be the same color, front and side. With the USDOT requiring amber side lights for passenger vehicles, that might dictate the DRL color up front as well.

Maybe they slap a combo amber reflector and side light on the wheel well edge. I just saw that on the new mini coopers and it looks good. And when turn signal is on, no different than front lights, the LED DRL turns amber with the bulb color below the lense cover so it’s more noticeable. Maybe wheel well one also blinks for added visibility

 

[J Alynn]

Cooper I mentioned