Is There Any Comparison Data to Other Brands on GVW, Body Dimensions, Off-Road Angles

[Muttonchops]

Are there enough Scout Terra (pre-production) Specifications available to do a brand comparison to the electric Ford/Chevy/Rivian {Telsa is NOT a pickup} pick-ups ?

Overall Size; width, ground clearance, etc . . .
Weights, curb and GVW . . .
Approach/departure/break over angle . . .

While my Terra Harvester will live a life like the ICE trucks I've owned; 50% highway towing, 5% off-roading, 45% daily usage.
The Terra is more like a full-size pickup on dimensions and will be heavy due to the batteries . . . .

Will it really be as Forest Service / BLM two-track road/path capable as my current mid-size Colorado?
Afterall the Colorado's bigger than my 1990's full-size F150 was . . . but the Colorado off-roading features seem to make up for the extra size and weight.

 

[J Alynn]

I’m sure if you did some digging on the internet you could find enough specs to get a fairly solid baseline and others on here might be able to help fill in missing items

 

[dreamweaver]

I’m sure if you did some digging on the internet you could find enough specs to get a fairly solid baseline and others on here might be able to help fill in missing items

Are there enough Scout Terra (pre-production) Specifications available to do a brand comparison to the electric Ford/Chevy/Rivian {Telsa is NOT a pickup} pick-ups ?

Overall Size; width, ground clearance, etc . . .
Weights, curb and GVW . . .
Approach/departure/break over angle . . .

While my Terra Harvester will live a life like the ICE trucks I've owned; 50% highway towing, 5% off-roading, 45% daily usage.
The Terra is more like a full-size pickup on dimensions and will be heavy due to the batteries . . . .

Will it really be as Forest Service / BLM two-track road/path capable as my current mid-size Colorado?
Afterall the Colorado's bigger than my 1990's full-size F150 was . . . but the Colorado off-roading features seem to make up for the extra size and weight.

Jamie posted these a while ago. This is a re-post from yesterday, it went missing.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Are there enough Scout Terra (pre-production) Specifications available to do a brand comparison to the electric Ford/Chevy/Rivian {Telsa is NOT a pickup} pick-ups ?

Overall Size; width, ground clearance, etc . . .
Weights, curb and GVW . . .
Approach/departure/break over angle . . .

While my Terra Harvester will live a life like the ICE trucks I've owned; 50% highway towing, 5% off-roading, 45% daily usage.
The Terra is more like a full-size pickup on dimensions and will be heavy due to the batteries . . . .

Will it really be as Forest Service / BLM two-track road/path capable as my current mid-size Colorado?
Afterall the Colorado's bigger than my 1990's full-size F150 was . . . but the Colorado off-roading features seem to make up for the extra size and weight.

According to specs, the Terra will be very similar to the Lightning in size and probably weight. It will have higher clearance and better angles. It will be fine as a mild+ off-road truck. It's going to be just too wide, too long, and too heavy to be a rock crawler.
Neither the Terra nor the Traveler will be able to do some of the moderate+ trails in Canyonlands National Park, which is my standard for an "off-roader." My Lightning cannot either.
The R1S and R1T are slightly more capable due to their smaller size. I will hold out for a Rivian R2 or Tacoma electric before getting back into off-roading.

 

[dreamweaver]

According to specs, the Terra will be very similar to the Lightning in size and probably weight. It will have higher clearance and better angles. It will be fine as a mild+ off-road truck. It's going to be just too wide, too long, and too heavy to be a rock crawler.
Neither the Terra nor the Traveler will be able to do some of the moderate+ trails in Canyonlands National Park, which is my standard for an "off-roader." My Lightning cannot either.
The R1S and R1T are slightly more capable due to their smaller size. I will hold out for a Rivian R2 or Tacoma electric before getting back into off-roading.

Are there any Ford F150's that are not heavily modified that are used for rock climbing? Will a Raptor fare better on the rocks? It seems you need light-weight for a rock climber.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Are there any Ford F150's that are not heavily modified that are used for rock climbing? Will a Raptor fare better on the rocks? It seems you need light-weight for a rock climber.

I wouldn't take a Raptor out crawling. It's fine as a desert runner. I wouldn't take any full-sized truck crawling. Some people do, though.

 

[dreamweaver]

I wouldn't take a Raptor out crawling. It's fine as a desert runner. I wouldn't take any full-sized truck crawling. Some people do, though.

That's what I thought.

 

[cyure]

That's what I thought.

The only place my Scout is crawling is the mall.

 

[nolen]

The only place my Scout is crawling is the mall.

mine will be crawling down I40 in the rush hour traffic

 

[oldgeeksguide]

According to specs, the Terra will be very similar to the Lightning in size and probably weight. It will have higher clearance and better angles. It will be fine as a mild+ off-road truck. It's going to be just too wide, too long, and too heavy to be a rock crawler.
Neither the Terra nor the Traveler will be able to do some of the moderate+ trails in Canyonlands National Park, which is my standard for an "off-roader." My Lightning cannot either.
The R1S and R1T are slightly more capable due to their smaller size. I will hold out for a Rivian R2 or Tacoma electric before getting back into off-roading.

I think the r1s is actually a bit larger than the traveler, mostly due to length. The body of the traveler is about 10” shorter than r1s, half an inch less height, and possibly even a bit narrower, depending on how much folded mirrors account for the stated width of the R1. The reason that the traveler looks longer at first glance is due to the spare tire and swing arm. Remember the R1S has a third row.

Personally, I’m looking forward to a smaller scout, maybe along the lines of the Rivian R2, or even R3, but I expect it’ll be a while.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

I think the r1s is actually a bit larger than the traveler, mostly due to length. The body of the traveler is about 10” shorter than r1s, half an inch less height, and possibly even a bit narrower, depending on how much folded mirrors account for the stated width of the R1. The reason that the traveler looks longer at first glance is due to the spare tire and swing arm. Remember the R1S has a third row.

Personally, I’m looking forward to a smaller scout, maybe along the lines of the Rivian R2, or even R3, but I expect it’ll be a while.

The biggest problem is the Terra and Traveler widths. They're really both too wide for some of the more interesting trails. Cannot do Devil's Pocket for example. The width of Devil's Pocket is officially 85 inches. With the mirrors taken off, the width of both the Traveler and the Terra is effectively 80 inches. Mirrors folded in will be at least 2 to 3 inches wide. This width also excludes several other trails in the Canyonlands National Park. I hope they decide to pull a Rivian and announce a Sport version of the Traveler when they reveal the final production vehicles.

 

[Albal]

The biggest problem is the Terra and Traveler widths.

Agree. They're wide enough that it will be a challenge for me to just to drive home down my narrow twisty country road. I'm hoping they go on a diet before release. Just a few inches here and there could make them much more flexible. Can't scout ahead if you you're too wide to get there!

 

[Albal]

Out of curiosity, just put together a list of the widths (without mirrors) of some popular EVs and trucks.

Width Model
72.9 ID.4
73.8 Gladiator
73.9 Wrangler
74.4 Ioniq 5
74.8 Wagoneer S Launch Ed
74.9 2025 Colorado ICE
75.9 Ford Bronco 4 door
76.4 EQE SUV
76.9 Tacoma
76.9 Chevy Equinox
77.4 BMW iX
77.5 Grand Cherokee 4xe
77.9 Ford Maverick
77.9 2025 Landcruiser
78.0 Kia EV9
78.1 ID.Buzz
79.9 Scout
80.0 F-150 Lightning
80.1 EQE SUV
81.8 Rivian R1T & R1S
83.8 Silverado EV
86.7 Hummer EV

 

[Chaz26]

It’s surprising how wide the R1T is compared to the F-150 Lightning.

 

[oldgeeksguide]

It’s surprising how wide the R1T is compared to the F-150 Lightning.

I think the R1t and R1s are “with mirrors folded” while f150 is “without mirrors “, dunno if that really makes a difference.

 

[04Ram2500Hemi]

I’m excited at the idea of a truck that’s under 80” wide. At 86” my TRX is kind of a fat bastard!

 

[cyure]

When I first saw dimensions I will be honest, the width scared me. Then I started looking up dimensions of cars I saw on the road. Yes they are wide, but so are tons of other cars out there on the road. And what sealed the deal for me is I got a Chrysler Pacifica minivan as a dealer loaner. When I had it I drove it just fine and it fit in my garage. I looked up the dimensions of that when I was doing all my calculations of “is the Traveler too wide” and that minivan is 79.6 wide without mirrors, 90.4 with mirrors and 204 long. So the Traveler with the tire carrier is same width essentially and 3 inches longer than that minivan. With that knowledge I was solid in my decision.

And honestly, Scout is paying homage to the original Scouts and the original Scouts were large wide vehicles. If they would have made them smaller, then the discussion would be why did they make them so much smaller than the originals.

I am thrilled with the look of the concepts and am counting down the days until mine is in my garage. Like literally counting down the days. I got one of those little countdown clocks on Amazon. 977 days until the end of 2027.