How about a cheap version that i can actually take offroad

[lancasel]

Why can't they make a cheap version? One that you can actually take off road. This is the problem with carmakers, they make cars so expensive that you can't afford them or they are too costly to actually use them for what they should be used for. I am not taking a 50-70K vehicle off roading in the brush or in a mud pit. Jeep has the same problem, they forgot what the truck was originally for. Taking it off road for hunting, rock climbing or just plain fun. I want a 25k truck that has the basics, no computer screen or fancy gadgets. just a plain simple vehicle to have fun in. I also want a gas powered version. If I have to change an engine out, it under 5k, to change a battery out is 20k. NOT EVERYONE WANTS AN EV!

 

[THil08]

There's another important aspect to keep in mind in this discussion, and that is business viability. We have seen the skeletons of those that have tried and failed at this game, but they were not Scout. Rivian has been an exception and really "exceptional" considering their launch occurred when the world shut down and the supply chain stammered to a halt.

Scout is fortunate in that they have 4 very important things working in their favor.

1 Scout's legacy & history
2 VW's backing
3 Almost a decade of EV truck development & learnings that will have occurred, prior to launch date
4 A pure BEV truck AND a EREV option w/ Harvester FOR BUYERS

At the end of it all, Scout needs to be a going concern and purely viable from a business perspective. Not to sound crass, but Scoutn NEEDS to look at the demographics and meet the market where there is the most demand. If you aren't comfortable with pure BEV, get the Harvester... It runs on gas!

True that, it’s been stated that it’s probably going to be Gas and Go from what was said in the Jay Leno video. Which Scott makes clear is for people like @lancasel, that have no desire to be involved in the technology that the Scouts have to offer.

Another reason I’m going for it is because I know that with my ADHD I’m gonna forget to plug it in some nights. And I’ll be pissed off in the morning, but with the Harvester I won’t need to worry about it. I did this exact thing to my golf cart last summer.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

True that, it’s been stated that it’s probably going to be Gas and Go from what was said in the Jay Leno video. Which Scott makes clear is for people like @lancasel, that have no desire to be involved in the technology that the Scouts have to offer.

Another reason I’m going for it is because I know that with my ADHD I’m gonna forget to plug it in some nights. And I’ll be pissed off in the morning, but with the Harvester I won’t need to worry about it. I did this exact thing to my golf cart last summer.

I have adhd and would always forget to gas up. Then we'd have to stop after less than an hour and everyone would be cranky with me.

I have my chargers notify me if the car is not plugged in when it's time to charge.

 

[Scoutsie]

VITROL! As in highly enthusiastic! Yes I understand the whole gas thing with the younger generation. There are plenty of us old people whole love International trucks and want to see a gas powered version. I believe they could produce a stripped down version for those who are more into the basics like the original Scouts were.

Fair enough. I know that there was at least one 83-year-old guy, that guy being my dad before he passed away in December of 2023, who was pretty excited for an electric Scout. He loved our simple, utilitarian Scout very much. I think our Scout and the MGA convertible that he drove in his twenties were the two great car loves of his life that he always really missed.

There are other old guys who put down their hundy for an electric Scout and I know that there are guys like you who want the gas-powered one, but I’m curious to know: would you be opposed to stripped-down Scout like you’re describing, only with an electric motor? Let’s say that there are no color OLED screens or anything and the only way you know voltage are by looking at analog dials (or maybe LCD panels)… is that appealing?

 

[THil08]

@J Alynn and @Scoutsie looks like we have another customer that we need to strip out the interior and all the driveline. To convert it over to the carbureted v8 and 56 gallon gas tank. And we can give him a nice low rider interior strap in some couches for the front and back, have them reupholstered in red velvet suede. We can also chop the top off from the shoulder line up for him with a recip saw. It might be heavy to remove but thats on him to figure out how to put it on and off.

 

[J Alynn]

@J Alynn and @Scoutsie looks like we have another customer that we need to strip out the interior and all the driveline. To convert it over to the carbureted v8 and 56 gallon gas tank. And we can give him a nice low rider interior strap in some couches for the front and back, have them reupholstered in red velvet suede. We can also chop the top off from the shoulder line up for him with a recip saw. It might be heavy to remove but thats on him to figure out how to put it on and off.

Definitely the couches . Havent seen that since a stop for gas in WV like 8 years ago

 

[Scoutsie]

I mean, I’m not suggesting that there’s not a market for someone to make brand-new shitbox jalopies, but all kidding aside, why does this simple, stripped-down Scout have to have a gas-powered motor? Why won’t it be capable of rock climbing, fishing, or fun?

 

[cyure]

I mean, I’m not suggesting that there’s not a market for someone to make brand-new shitbox jalopies, but all kidding aside, why does this simple, stripped-down Scout have to have a gas-powered motor? Why won’t it be capable of rock climbing, fishing, or fun?

Exactly. I know it’s not the same but I think of the harvester as like a hybrid. So you can carry a gas can on the back and go out into the wilderness. And maybe after it gets going and they see the demand they will make a bigger 3 row and a smaller 2 door stripped down, who knows. But they need to be successful right out of the gate and based on whatever metrics they used this is the route they decided was the best to accomplish that success so we can eventually get other models.

 

[cyure]

I mean look at Rivian. The R2 they are projecting at $45 and it’s smaller and the R3 is even smaller and supposed to be cheaper even still. But they have to get their foot in the door and get rolling before they can have tons of models at different price points. It would seem to me that Scout wants to be a place for all comers. It just takes time to do that unfortunately.

 

[J Alynn]

I mean look at Rivian. The R2 they are projecting at $45 and it’s smaller and the R3 is even smaller and supposed to be cheaper even still. But they have to get their foot in the door and get rolling before they can have tons of models at different price points. It would seem to me that Scout wants to be a place for all comers. It just takes time to do that unfortunately.

Agreed. First vehicle had to be the Pheonix so-to-speak. It had to scream iconic and be in the most common/desirable vehicle type. As others have said. Other models will come along but out of the gate they have to succeed for those to happen. Look at how many EV start ups barely got out of the gate if they even got out

 

[04Ram2500Hemi]

Why can't they make a cheap version? One that you can actually take off road. This is the problem with carmakers, they make cars so expensive that you can't afford them or they are too costly to actually use them for what they should be used for. I am not taking a 50-70K vehicle off roading in the brush or in a mud pit. Jeep has the same problem, they forgot what the truck was originally for. Taking it off road for hunting, rock climbing or just plain fun. I want a 25k truck that has the basics, no computer screen or fancy gadgets. just a plain simple vehicle to have fun in. I also want a gas powered version. If I have to change an engine out, it under 5k, to change a battery out is 20k. NOT EVERYONE WANTS AN EV!

I’d prefer a fully gas powered Scout as well (and if we’re being picky, I’ll take mine with a 700hp supercharged V8). However, Scout did the smart thing with the Harvester package. I’m kind of excited about having an EV for the daily commute and not having to get gas every two weeks. I’m also excited about the potential of the Harvester with a “gas and go” setup for 500 plus mile day trips, or when I’m in the middle of nowhere and there aren’t chargers.

The problem is you want a new vehicle for $25,000 (so do I), and I’m afraid that ship has sailed. Maybe a Ford Maverick, but that’s not my definition of an off road vehicle.