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There seems to be an uptick in cars and cross-overs with weirdly shaped fenders, strange body panel bump-outs, and sloped rear roofs. They all appear (to me, at least) as "unattractive" - probably due to my own personal preference for boxy shapes. Did these designers all own Pontiac Azteks or something?

I actually find the lines on the old Volvo Wagons (rectangles on wheels) more attractive than these "hexagonal" body shapes. And for crissakes give me a flat roof line! LOL

For some reason I find the lines & shape of the BMW 740iX to be much more attractive than these crossover vehicles (but its a sedan) ZERO interest in actually owning one. But they do appear to my eyes to be much more "premium" than this other iX's in the line-up... I guess they should be for $120K. LOL.
 
There seems to be an uptick in cars and cross-overs with weirdly shaped fenders, strange body panel bump-outs, and sloped rear roofs. They all appear (to me, at least) as "unattractive" - probably due to my own personal preference for boxy shapes. Did these designers all own Pontiac Azteks or something?

I actually find the lines on the old Volvo Wagons (rectangles on wheels) more attractive than these "hexagonal" body shapes. And for crissakes give me a flat roof line! LOL

For some reason I find the lines & shape of the BMW 740iX to be much more attractive than these crossover vehicles (but its a sedan) ZERO interest in actually owning one. But they do appear to my eyes to be much more "premium" than this other iX's in the line-up... I guess they should be for $120K. LOL.

Yeah, I'm not okay with this different for the sake of being different thing going on now. Or maybe it's like Hyundai where they're throwing spaghetti at a wall and seeing what sticks. I'm okay with some while others need to die with fire.

A classically good-looking design is just that, and more importantly, it ages well. Scout nailed the recent designs and they'll still look good in 20-30 years.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm much more about the car and how it drives over the aesthetic, but I can't enjoy the drive if I vomit every time I walk into my garage.
 
Yeah, I'm not okay with this different for the sake of being different thing going on now. Or maybe it's like Hyundai where they're throwing spaghetti at a wall and seeing what sticks. I'm okay with some while others need to die with fire.

A classically good-looking design is just that, and more importantly, it ages well. Scout nailed the recent designs and they'll still look good in 20-30 years.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm much more about the car and how it drives over the aesthetic, but I can't enjoy the drive if I vomit every time I walk into my garage.
All of this doesn't bother me at all. I don't want to own a car. LOL
 
There seems to be an uptick in cars and cross-overs with weirdly shaped fenders, strange body panel bump-outs, and sloped rear roofs. They all appear (to me, at least) as "unattractive" - probably due to my own personal preference for boxy shapes. Did these designers all own Pontiac Azteks or something?

I actually find the lines on the old Volvo Wagons (rectangles on wheels) more attractive than these "hexagonal" body shapes. And for crissakes give me a flat roof line! LOL

For some reason I find the lines & shape of the BMW 740iX to be much more attractive than these crossover vehicles (but its a sedan) ZERO interest in actually owning one. But they do appear to my eyes to be much more "premium" than this other iX's in the line-up... I guess they should be for $120K. LOL.
The IX's seem to have the Porsche fenders wide shoulders.
 
There seems to be an uptick in cars and cross-overs with weirdly shaped fenders, strange body panel bump-outs, and sloped rear roofs. They all appear (to me, at least) as "unattractive" - probably due to my own personal preference for boxy shapes. Did these designers all own Pontiac Azteks or something?

I actually find the lines on the old Volvo Wagons (rectangles on wheels) more attractive than these "hexagonal" body shapes. And for crissakes give me a flat roof line! LOL

For some reason I find the lines & shape of the BMW 740iX to be much more attractive than these crossover vehicles (but its a sedan) ZERO interest in actually owning one. But they do appear to my eyes to be much more "premium" than this other iX's in the line-up... I guess they should be for $120K. LOL.
Speaking of weirdly shaped fenders and bump outs has anyone seen the 2027 Tucson yet? Yikes

 
Meanwhile in other disruptive automotive / autonomous / AI / SW & simulation-related news to drive more innovation across their stack...


"Simulation is central to how we train and validate our autonomous driving systems"

This is the issue I have. Relying on simulations doesn't give me warm fuzzies about AI driving for me when I regularly see something I've never seen before when driving, despite having a million+ miles under my belt. What does AI do when it's something all-new and only has a second to make a decision??
 
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"Simulation is central to how we train and validate our autonomous driving systems"

This is the issue I have. Relying on simulations doesn't give me warm fuzzies about AI driving for me when I regularly see something I've never seen before when driving, despite having a million+ miles under my belt. What does AI do when it's something all-new and only has a second to make a decision??
Simulation & machine learning is one component.

With simulations you can also rapidly account for many variables in a much shorter window, and do so safely. I'm sure not all simulations are perfect, but they can be a critical component of a broader development effort - not just for cars but for other things like flying, robotics, surgery, etc.
 
Speaking of weirdly shaped fenders and bump outs has anyone seen the 2027 Tucson yet? Yikes

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"Simulation is central to how we train and validate our autonomous driving systems"

This is the issue I have. Relying on simulations doesn't give me warm fuzzies about AI driving for me when I regularly see something I've never seen before when driving, despite having a million+ miles under my belt. What does AI do when it's something all-new and only has a second to make a decision??
The last ditch command was programmed to "when in doubt, throttle it out" :ROFLMAO:
 
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Funny story - We went to Oktoberfest in Munich, and I had scheduled a 1:1 session with a product specialist to see the ix3 at the BMW Welt Museum/Delivery Center, because it was on the short list for Mrs. ROMR.

3 days earlier we were in Dublin visiting our daughter. I'm standing on the corner with my oldest and one of the iX3s rolls 3 feet in front of and stops. I immediately wince at it cuz now I know EXACTLY what the wife is going to say when she sees one. I ask the oldest, she says "Eww" ;-)

Sure enough, We left the Munich hotel one morning the day before our appointment, an iX3 pulled up outside in the circle and she immediately said "NOPE".

Appointment cancelled.

I got a kick out of Bob Lutz podcast last week with MotoMan, where he absolutely laid into current German design.
He's not wrong.
Bob Lutz is the man! I love that guy. I wish there were more people like him in the auto industry. He had a Swiss army Pinzgauer until recently.
 
Agree. I think the neue klasse 3 series has a lot of cool heritage influence that works
I like the new X3 but just not the rest. It’s another “Bangle” era at BMW so I’ll wait until the next gen comes out I like cutting edge but proportions matter and some just don’t work on this direction. The X3 proportions seem better integrated