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Peanut butter yellow?...and what color would that be???
The fact that I don’t even have to say it anymore! PBY!!!! You know it!...and what color would that be???
Very true, that's left a lot of Tesla owners butt-hurt with the wild swings in pricing. While Scout has a solid leadership team in place, I don't expect such from them, but DTC models will also require sales/incentives or varied pricing to combat the ebb and flow of the marketplace. You see it at Lucid, Rivian, Tesla, etc. Hopefully they find a way to do it well without looking like a sleazy car lot.
Absolutely, but we'll still be paying that extra ~$5k on Scouts, though thankfully for long-term viability in this case, Scout will be making more money instead of paying a scummy middleman. If Scout is putting out a competitive vehicle at a competitive price to the competition that has dealerships, why would they charge less instead of making $5k more per vehicle? I hope I'm just cynical, but the whole Scout experiment was about making money.There’s very clear evidence that dealers cost consumers about $5,000 extra per vehicle, on average, compared with what the costs would be without a dealer in the way. That’s not including the extra markup dealers in my area tack on just because they own the entire market within one or two hours drive. And every transaction with a dealer costs me many more hours than I want to waste. I have better things to do with my life than waste time going back-and-forth with a dealer. Not everything is about dollars. Some people don’t have four or more hours to waste with the scam of “let me talk to my manager,” “you need the extra coverage in case the blinker fluid freezes in the winter,” and other nonsense and lies.
Dealership 'Middleman Tax' Is Adding Nearly $5,000 To Car Prices - Jalopnik
State laws requiring automakers to sell cars through franchised dealers are adding somewhere between $3,934 and $4,992 to the price of each and every car.www.jalopnik.com
That absolutely makes sense if they're paying Time-of-Use rates to the power company. I've been running the numbers recently around the house and am changing to ToU rates in two weeks because it makes financial sense for us even without batteries, but I'm doing the math to see how adding batteries can optimize my savings.
So then we’re back to price not being the actual differentiator. We'll be paying the same amount either way (barring the very, very few people who actually find a way to get an actual lower price, not just a feel-good price from a dealership).
Given that the prices aren’t going to be better, I’d much, much rather shop online, talk to experts in the forums, make my choices, order the car, have it delivered to my home, and start driving. Instead, dealerships are forcing us through legislation to go through them for no benefit to consumers at all. I’ve never met a salesperson who knew more about the vehicle I’m interested in than I do, and I’ve never met a salesperson who knew more about the vehicle than my not-car-people family members. I’ve never felt the work done at a dealership was worth the cost. I’ve never felt the dealership was on my side in a dispute with the manufacturer.
I looked at a new 4Runner the other day. I was at the dealer for something else and they happened to have one. I asked a couple questions. The salesperson had no idea. That happens all the time!
I keep thinking it wont be ugly it will just blend in with the crowd. If the designers who penned the current Z also design the Xterra I think there is hope. BUT-if they use the current design language then yes-I think you’ll have a winning bet
I’ve done a lot of preliminary over the phone negotiating and handled the same way. We’ve always done OTD pricing and we usually tell them we are still deciding on whether to trade or do cash then they have to focus first on new car price.
We should be picking up the Lexus RZ in next few weeks and have to say our dealer was easy. We worked the vehicle price and they were offering $7500 off Lexus “cash” so that worked. Manger went out to establish price. KBB said $40K trade, wife told sales guy $42 independent of the manager knowing and he came back with $42 so we said deal. We will see how final paperwork goes when it shows up on dealer lot
But with SM eliminating dealer model “in theory” we are saving that cost because that offsets some of the battery costs and start up costs of the company so I do think we end up getting a bit more for the price due to eliminating the waste of typical dealer
And no LoJack or Simonize and on and on.
I did learn this from the dealer so I’ll share-when internet shopping for a vehicle, (at least with Lexus-presuming other manufacturers too) there site tracks your stops/searches on a particular vehicle so if you find one and say it isn’t at your dealer locally then you look a few days later , etc… it tracks that and dealer then knows someone is interested so if our local dealer tries to do a vehicle swap the other dealer is anticipating and may play hardball. Hadn’t realized they tracked to that level and used it as part of their practice in sales manipulation
YES! I didn’t realize that was still a thing until we bought the Supra. I couldn’t believe I was arguing over Simonize.Simonize....I can't
Interesting, I thought Toyota typically did the whole Toyoguard thing.
I had no idea it was either! I thought you were joking about the Toyota thing...thats crazy its still a thing. I thought the only thing used now was PPF or ceramic coating.
I thought they were joking too until I saw the price they had associated with it. The Supra did come with limited PPF that was put on at the port and then the dealer added Simonize. Same thing. They lowered the price of that and upped the amount they gave us on the trade but they refused to take it off and this was summer of ‘22 when it was so hard to find cars let alone a Supra and I got them to sell it at MSRP when everyone else was $5 to $10 over depending on color.
Scout needs to take the lead on colors!
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