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My wife should have a full EV. That said, she still has charging infrastructure anxiety. She has a BMW X5 plug in hybrid. It has about a 45 mile range on electricity. The engine almost never fires up. It calculates the difference between the two power sources. It is about 95% EV use, maybe higher.
It looks like it will be a minivan with a roof rack/lights and recovery hooks based on the video I saw. It just shows little bits of the vehicle.
You say that like it's a bad thing!
I get Gen 1 Toyota Venza vibes from the Gravity. I love wagons and vans. Way more practical than SUV's for most uses.
If they swapped the rear doors for useful doors like what’s on a minivan, I’d immediately look at how I could make it affordable to me. If Toyota released a BEV Sienna with 300+ miles of range, I’d probably try to trade in the Mustang early.
Minivans are some of the most useful vehicles I’ve ever owned and I’ve owned everything from bicycles and motorcycles to 2-ton flatbed trucks; sports cars to SUVs; pickup trucks to vans; 1960s bread vans to 2-seater convertibles.
Of all of our past vehicles, I miss the Sienna the most—we had some fantastic road trips and off-road adventures in that thing. But there’s no BEV minivan, so it’s a no-go.
Unless you want an IDBuzz. It is considered a minivan and it is electric.
It's a shame the range is so bad on those, I think they look cool and if for the same price they could do 300 miles on a charge and maybe have a higher peak charging rate as well, it would be a good buy.
The ID.Buzz was on our list of hopefuls. The decent but not great range was a problem for us. Plus the VW dealer in town closed and the closest dealer is about 2.5 hours away and they add a huge ADM to their vehicles. The Lightning was less than 2/3 the cost of the ID.Buzz when we bought.
But you’re right, since I’ve dismissed it as an option for us, I’ve forgotten that it exists. It’s certainly an option for some. And really doesn’t look like a Sienna or Odyssey.
Yeah I haven't looked recently but when they first came out they were about $15,000 above MSRP near me. One of the reasons I'm hoping Scout is successful is doing direct to consumer sales.
They have a nice value proposition in some use cases. Specifically, if you typically operate in a small local area most of the time, but still also drive long distances and want to refuel quickly at times as well.
I've had a Hyundai Tucson PHEV for 3 years now. It has a 30-33 mile EV range, and gets ~33mpg when in hybrid mode when the battery is discharged. Its been effecti
We have ~36k miles on it right now, and I've kept track of the avg gas mileage over 10k mile increments (the max distance of the trip meter). My worst avg mpg over 10k miles, has been ~59.5mpg (which includes a ~3k mile round trip road trip with no real charging). My best 10k mile avg mpg, was 206mpg (a year when we didn't do the road trip).
I live 26 miles from work (but usually WFH). If I have to go into the office, I can split the charge between the trip to the office, and the trip home, and avg almost exactly 100mpg.
And for me, the cost to drive in EV mode, is about ~1/3 of the cost of fuel. My 33 mile range recharge costs me ~$1.40. A gallon of gas around here also takes me ~33 miles, and costs ~$4.50.
Is it PHEV perfect? No, it isn't. But, they work well in some situations.
That said, I see the EREV style setup a better solution for the same use case, which is why I've got a harvester reserved. But we'll see how things look in another few years
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They haven't ruled out this coming to the US.
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But a little better than a mini van. Reminds me more of the older Mercedes that were tha high ride wagon feel. Can’t imagine an off road looking mini van or at least not capable so will be curious what they’ve figured out
Nine!!!!!
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Nine Total Sales: Why The Lucid Gravity Isn't Selling (Yet)
Production of the Lucid Gravity began last December, but the automaker has managed to deliver only 9 units to customers since the first one rolled off the line.
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The aftermarket has been making lift kits and other off-road enabling kits for the Sienna for about a decade, maybe 15 years.
It’s too expensive, came out at just the wrong time (tariffs, especially on Chinese-made magnets have really hurt Lucid—and the main source of magnets is China), and they have had a massive problem with people being able to access the vehicle. I wanted to test drive the Gravity in Phoenix this past summer, but they only had it for show, not for test driving. It’s pretty, but I can’t say anything more about it.Nine!!!!!
Nine Total Sales: Why The Lucid Gravity Isn't Selling (Yet)
Production of the Lucid Gravity began last December, but the automaker has managed to deliver only 9 units to customers since the first one rolled off the line.
This should be a warning to Scout: They need to make it easy to find and test drive their vehicles. I don’t like the dealership model. But Scout needs to figure out a way to easily get them into the hands of their potential customers across North America.
That would be nice!They haven't ruled out this coming to the US.
Kia's first electric van 'unboxed' and ready to take on the world
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