Consumer Freedom and Scout Motors in South Carolina

[chucchinchilla]

Absolute trash. A fair marketplace is one that lets me buy what I want, how I want, and when I want and South Carolina is not that. Meanwhile here in California I look forward to celebrating my direct-to-consumer purchase of a Scout with some liquor I buy from a grocery store on a Sunday after 8PM. Cheers.

 

[cyure]

In 2022 we bought 4 cars in 6 months. We were all over the place with dealerships and trying to get no market adjustment added and then just when you think you have that done then they add simonize coating or something that you don’t want that they refuse to take off. That was another thing that made the Scout so appealing is I can get it how I want it and not have to buy what the dealer has on the lot and transparent pricing. If I never buy from another dealer it will still be too soon!

 

[Scoutsie]

Wow. What hubris.

So. They’re protecting consumer freedom? Well, it’s great to hear that they’re such passionate defenders of liberty. I wonder if that extends to free speech because I’d want to exercise the free speech of sharing only the most scathing and damaging Yelp reviews on highly visible signs and in dramatic readings outside of the dealerships of every single member of this organization. I’m from Boston and this town invented modern American rabble rousing and this makes me want to rouse rabble. ️

 

[Czernobog]

 

[Dana]

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It’s disappointing but luckily Tesla and Rivian have figured this out. The money gets sent to Nevada or California, etc., and the truck gets put on a rail car. Hopefully this could mean a delivery/service center in western Minnesota. I had looked forward to visiting and enjoying the BBQ.

 

[J Alynn]

It’s disappointing but luckily Tesla and Rivian have figured this out. The money gets sent to Nevada or California, etc., and the truck gets put on a rail car. Hopefully this could mean a delivery/service center in western Minnesota. I had looked forward to visiting and enjoying the BBQ.

I’m sure there’s a way to still pull off delivery. Just a little more complicated

 

[bwdavis7]

I’m sure there’s a way to still pull off delivery. Just a little more complicated

I thinking that SM can hire us as Beta Testers and once that test period is up, they sell us that "Used Vehicle". There's bound to be hundreds of loopholes. I mean it's laws made be these men...they can't be bullet proof.

 

[bwdavis7]

As a consumer and resident of SC, I feel the need to apologize for our state politics. It is a great place to work, live and play, however there are some downsides and you just witnessed the back scratching politics

Here's the headlines from the postandcourier.com a while back:

Closing the deal: Auto dealers donate $227K to S.C. lawmakers​

"South Carolina lawmakers have received more than $227,000 in campaign contributions from automobile dealers and industry lobbyists so far in 2016, a review of ethics filing shows."

I'm sure there are hundreds more examples that exhibit how corrupt these weasels are and the car dealerships that have over 100 years of experience and several family generations to know how to pull the right strings. Most of this has flown under the radar of consumers of SC, myself included and it is shameful.

DTC or not, I will not be buying from a South Carolina dealership. That boat has sailed. I hope SM doesn't give in to these dealerships, but even if they do, I will gladly purchase mine from a neighboring state.

Again, to all of you Scout lovers, sorry about what's going down here, but I think as someone may have said before, let's just look forward to getting our new Scouts from...wherever!

 

[LastDayScout]

Wow. What hubris.

So. They’re protecting consumer freedom? Well, it’s great to hear that they’re such passionate defenders of liberty. I wonder if that extends to free speech because I’d want to exercise the free speech of sharing only the most scathing and damaging Yelp reviews on highly visible signs and in dramatic readings outside of the dealerships of every single member of this organization. I’m from Boston and this town invented modern American rabble rousing and this makes me want to rouse rabble. ️

As a consumer and resident of SC, I feel the need to apologize for our state politics. It is a great place to work, live and play, however there are some downsides and you just witnessed the back scratching politics

Here's the headlines from the postandcourier.com a while back:

Closing the deal: Auto dealers donate $227K to S.C. lawmakers​

"South Carolina lawmakers have received more than $227,000 in campaign contributions from automobile dealers and industry lobbyists so far in 2016, a review of ethics filing shows."

I'm sure there are hundreds more examples that exhibit how corrupt these weasels are and the car dealerships that have over 100 years of experience and several family generations to know how to pull the right strings. Most of this has flown under the radar of consumers of SC, myself included and it is shameful.

DTC or not, I will not be buying from a South Carolina dealership. That boat has sailed. I hope SM doesn't give in to these dealerships, but even if they do, I will gladly purchase mine from a neighboring state.

Again, to all of you Scout lovers, sorry about what's going down here, but I think as someone may have said before, let's just look forward to getting our new Scouts from...wherever!

Ditto. My apologies as well. We’re not all mouth breathing, glad handing, backwards crooks down here. But, we sure do seem to perpetually put them in office.

 

[Dana]

I thinking that SM can hire us as Beta Testers and once that test period is up, they sell us that "Used Vehicle". There's bound to be hundreds of loopholes. I mean it's laws made be these men...they can't be bullet proof.

Yeah, I mean, if you want something done right you gotta give it to a woman, lol. That’s pretty crafty loophole thinking!

North Dakota has a DTC ban, too, so bought in Minnesota.

Does South Carolina have any tribal lands? Figure if it worked for casinos…

 

[LastDayScout]

Yeah, I mean, if you want something done right you gotta give it to a woman, lol. That’s pretty crafty loophole thinking!

North Dakota has a DTC ban, too, so bought in Minnesota.

Does South Carolina have any tribal lands? Figure if it worked for casinos…

The Catawba Tribe does.

 

[eddiet1212]

Thread 'Maybe Scout Could Partner with Tribal Nations for Direct to Consumer Delivery on Tribal Lands'

Feb 4, 2025

Maybe Scout Could Partner with Tribal Nations for Direct to Consumer Delivery of Vehicles on Tribal Lands​

Old news....

Tesla Finds a Workaround for State Laws: Dealerships on Tribal Lands​

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/tesla-finds-a-workaround-for-state-laws-dealerships-on-tribal-lands/

Maybe a Seminole Tribe and Scout partnership in Florida?
The only Tribe in America who never signed a peace treaty

Seminole Tribe of Florida

Seminole Tribe of Florida official homepage is dedicated to the rich history, culture, and services of the Florida Seminole Indians.

www.semtribe.com

Or other Indigenous American Tribal partnerships?

Poarch Creek Indians in Alabama?

Poarch Creek Indians - Federally Recognized Tribe, Atmore Alabama

The Poarch Creek Indians are Alabama's only federally-recognized tribe in Atmore AL. Learn all about our history, culture and community

pci-nsn.gov

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[MasterSpam]

I thinking that SM can hire us as Beta Testers and once that test period is up, they sell us that "Used Vehicle". There's bound to be hundreds of loopholes. I mean it's laws made be these men...they can't be bullet proof.

Great Idea! I'll volunteer as a New Mexico Beta Tester and rolling advertisment. Give me a hundred Scout stickers and I'll distribute them as I do my travel.

 

[MasterSpam]

Thread 'Maybe Scout Could Partner with Tribal Nations for Direct to Consumer Delivery on Tribal Lands'

Feb 4, 2025

Maybe Scout Could Partner with Tribal Nations for Direct to Consumer Delivery of Vehicles on Tribal Lands​

Old news....

Tesla Finds a Workaround for State Laws: Dealerships on Tribal Lands​

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/tesla-finds-a-workaround-for-state-laws-dealerships-on-tribal-lands/

Maybe a Seminole Tribe and Scout partnership in Florida?
The only Tribe in America who never signed a peace treaty

Seminole Tribe of Florida

Seminole Tribe of Florida official homepage is dedicated to the rich history, culture, and services of the Florida Seminole Indians.

www.semtribe.com

Or other Indigenous American Tribal partnerships?

Poarch Creek Indians in Alabama?

Poarch Creek Indians - Federally Recognized Tribe, Atmore Alabama

The Poarch Creek Indians are Alabama's only federally-recognized tribe in Atmore AL. Learn all about our history, culture and community

pci-nsn.gov

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Yah, I mentioned that is what the Nations are doing here in NM for Tesla

 

[bwdavis7]

@codythacker
Being a lifetime SC resident and a Scout reservation holder, the South Carolina franchise law issue is on my mind quite a bit. I have written several state legislators and only received one positive reply (he happens to be an old high school friend and also State Senator President, Thomas Alexander). Thomas and Gov. McMaster were at the Scout reveal a year ago.
Since the Consumer Freedom proposal stalled and a legislators involved are not responsive, I thought an alternative approach may be worth investigating. I am writing to the SC tourism department at https://pages.discoversouthcarolina.travel/contact to express my thoughts about how DTC sales could impact SC.

 

[Dana]

@codythacker
Being a lifetime SC resident and a Scout reservation holder, the South Carolina franchise law issue is on my mind quite a bit. I have written several state legislators and only received one positive reply (he happens to be an old high school friend and also State Senator President, Thomas Alexander). Thomas and Gov. McMaster were at the Scout reveal a year ago.
Since the Consumer Freedom proposal stalled and a legislators involved are not responsive, I thought an alternative approach may be worth investigating. I am writing to the SC tourism department at https://pages.discoversouthcarolina.travel/contact to express my thoughts about how DTC sales could impact SC.

That’s super smart. I’d be prime example. And you’re welcome to use me as one. I’d come down from North Dakota, and probably drag my sister along. It’s a long drive…we’d get there a day early, pick up Traveler, and then spend a few days roaming around NC/SC visiting touristy things and trying some SC BBQ before the drive back. I mean, would NC/SC make millions off me? No. But it’d be several days of meals, hotels, and admission tickets to maritime museums, Biltmore, etc. North Dakota is in similar fight. Tesla wants to put service center in Fargo and Bismarck, which would be huge. We have to go to Minneapolis if it’s not something our awesome mobile tech can do. But there’s resistance from the dealers.

 

[rehajm]

South Carolina is a cesspool of old fashioned politics. Legislators are too cozy with the nascar dealer network. If we get a modern dtc purchase experienceI’ll eat my Donnie Allison Hawaiian Tropic hat..

 

[J Alynn]

South Carolina is a cesspool of old fashioned politics. Legislators are too cozy with the nascar dealer network. If we get a modern dtc purchase experienceI’ll eat my Donnie Allison Hawaiian Tropic hat..

If you’ve already purchased your vehicle from another state there shouldn’t be anything limiting you from doing a delivery experience. You’ve paid for the vehicle already. You aren’t there to purchase it

 

[J Alynn]

I think all SM would really have to do is establish a “dealership” in another state. You call them, review your order and that serves as your out of state purchase-which you can do-you just have to deal with your state taxes after you take possession. Then you add a $1 build option charge for transport delivery either to your house or to the SM factory.
Now you’ve paid SM to transport it for you “because you don’t want 600 miles added because SC sucks and won’t allow DTC”. I’m not sure how dealers could prevent that.
Then at the factory you establish a museum which I think SM already mentionedand you fill it with various models that serve as sit in sales models-you just don’t call it showroom but an interactive display. Then as part of the $1 admittance fee to the museum you include a driving tour of the factory site(both on and off road) which serves as a “test drive”. You paid a dollar for the “entertainment”expense. And in return you get to climb on and in them and drive them. Like a kids museum for adult “children”. For $5 you can spend the night in a yurt and/or treehouse and do an extended outdoor adventure as part of the SM museum heritage experience. Problem solved.

 

[J Alynn]

I think all SM would really have to do is establish a “dealership” in another state. You call them, review your order and that serves as your out of state purchase-which you can do-you just have to deal with your state taxes after you take possession. Then you add a $1 build option charge for transport delivery either to your house or to the SM factory.
Now you’ve paid SM to transport it for you “because you don’t want 600 miles added because SC sucks and won’t allow DTC”. I’m not sure how dealers could prevent that.
Then at the factory you establish a museum which I think SM already mentionedand you fill it with various models that serve as sit in sales models-you just don’t call it showroom but an interactive display. Then as part of the $1 admittance fee to the museum you include a driving tour of the factory site(both on and off road) which serves as a “test drive”. You paid a dollar for the “entertainment”expense. And in return you get to climb on and in them and drive them. Like a kids museum for adult “children”. For $5 you can spend the night in a yurt and/or treehouse and do an extended outdoor adventure as part of the SM museum heritage experience. Problem solved.

Then for another $2 add-on fee you get the how they are built experience (now it’s a science museum) and you tour the factory AND the post build accessories shop to see how they add graphics, winches, etc. Hershey chocolate world has their make a candy bar factory tour experience so same idea but with trucks. I’d gladly pay $8 for all the MUSEUM experiences