Oh I love that addition. I plan on discussing the absurd price upcharges that come for limited supply vehicles (when dealers, for example, charged consumers thousands extra for the early Broncos among other vehicles). I can certainly see where dealers can be helpful when supply is plentiful, but especially early on with Scouts, there won’t be enough vehicles to have the dealers compete on price—and it makes it more likely that dealers will charge over MSRP.
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You are correct. Of course that is one of the main points to NOT using Dealers. Even the word Dealers has a negative connotation.
I hate you had that experience. The Traveler is really good looking, but I agree it is really big. Maybe a smidge too big.
For comparison it is Tahoe size.
This actually gives me pause. Granted this is a concept car and it's on some big wheel off road package so it can look amazing (which it does), I hope it's not something you have to crawl up into and/or hope regular versions will be standard SUV height.
I'm aware. It is also fairly close to the Rivian R1S. I was at the reveal and was a bit surprised at how big it is. A little nip and tuck would be great for my intended purpose.
I actually have the dimensions on a sticky note on my desk comparing it to my current BMW iX. The Traveler is 4.1" shorter in length (no tire carrier), 9.57" taller and 2.45" wider. The width is the main issue. I have a very tight driveway and it might not work for me. I would guess that the height may come down a bit as the concept is on 35s.
Thanks! My background is in Urban Planning and I currently work in real estate development and construction, so I could go on and on about it if needed...haha!
Same here. It’s the width. Even just a couple inches less would make a big difference. I keep looking at cars like Tahoes and even minivans etc when I’m out and about to get myself used to the size.
I really want 35s. Don’t need them but really want them. I’m hoping when we build out our Scouts someday on the website it will give exact dimensions depending on the accessories we choose. Roof racks, tires etc.
That’s roughly about how much larger it is than my Countryman but not at all smaller lol. But I’ve stood next to a Bad Lands Broncos it had after market suspension and they weren’t too tall on me.
I also wonder if it’s larger because it’s a concept, which most concepts tend to be larger than what they really are. But @Jamie@ScoutMotors are the concept production size or no?
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Figure an inch and maybe the prototype has a bit of extra suspension but figure it won’t be more than a couple of inches max
Bigger than I originally wanted but knowing it’s the size of our pilot I’ve grown to like that size. Biggest SUV I’ve had as a daily driver was a Toyota Highlander so something Yukon size will be good from my point of view
I’ve spent 20 years as an architect helping with planning and my biggest struggle is wasted land use. Like the big box stores that won’t use an empty warehouse half a mile down the road. So glad you do what you do and glad you took that angle. As we continue doing neighborhood planning with aspects of new urbanism it would be great to merge things like the SM experience buildings with a restaurant space attached or a Starbucks (can’t believe I said that) but something that brings another industry’s patrons in contact with SM while also providing a place to hang out while charging. New trends like food halls and mixed use businesses could work in DTC scenarios as well.
The downfall with a couple inches is then the proportions get blown and the stance no longer looks as amazing!
If they are optioned with air suspension will that make them able to go much lower?
Once I realized it was basically the size of the minivan I got as a dealer loaner I was fine. I was able to get that thing in my garage.
Exactly. I really want those 35s. It’s my dream!The downfall with a couple inches is then the proportions get blown and the stance no longer looks as amazing!
It is worth pointing out that these are concept vehicles and sit high (probably comparable to an off-road package). Final bumper heights and tailgate heights will be slightly different.
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