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In the same build of the software, the harvester fuel door is still there View attachment 15651
I know it's blurry, but you can make it out.

All in all though, this is probably just working through things as far as the software goes, I feel like the "Exterior" tab should have a frunk toggle, but that's non-existant
All the key fob mock ups to date have had frunk on the fob so maybe that is direction they are heading?
 
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In the same build of the software, the harvester fuel door is still there View attachment 15651
I know it's blurry, but you can make it out.

All in all though, this is probably just working through things as far as the software goes, I feel like the "Exterior" tab should have a frunk toggle, but that's non-existant
Scout loves physical buttons and switches. Looks like it is left of the steering wheel instead of in the screen on the prototypes

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Scout loves physical buttons and switches. Looks like it is left of the steering wheel instead of in the screen on the prototypes

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I'll stand by my previous statement though, if you can control it in the app (as shown in a previous demo) there's no reason they can't have it on the screen. A button on the driver's area is great, but what if you want your passenger to open the the hatches for you? It would be easier for them to access through the screen instead of reaching over and around the wheel. If there's a bench seat they could slide over, but that's not extremely likely for a lot of people I would imagine.

I don’t see a logical reason to a lack of options depending on the situation, the button is the fastest way other than a fob button, but there will be situations where the screen could be more convenient
 
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I'll stand by my previous statement though, if you can control it in the app (as shown in a previous demo) there's no reason they can't have it on the screen. A button on the driver's area is great, but what if you want your passenger to open the the hatches for you? It would be easier for them to access through the screen instead of reaching over and around the wheel. If there's a bench seat they could slide over, but that's not extremely likely for a lot of people I would imagine.

I don’t see a logical reason to a lack of options depending on the situation, the button is the fastest way other than a fob button, but there will be situations where the screen could be more convenient
This is a rear occasion where I disagree with you on something. It’s safer on drivers side and accessible for the person who should be in charge, and it’s in the same location majority of drivers expect. The screen would just add unnecessary steps for a very quick action that is time tested already
 
This is a rear occasion where I disagree with you on something. It’s safer on drivers side and accessible for the person who should be in charge, and it’s in the same location majority of drivers expect. The screen would just add unnecessary steps for a very quick action that is time tested already
The screen isn’t unnecessary, it’s an additional option. If it can be opened via an app on your phone the vehicle is also capable of using software based interface to open/close. This gives options, not like your passenger will be able to flip to that screen and open the frunk while driving. I’m not saying the button should be screen only, I’m saying the option should be on the screen as there will be times it’s more convenient, just like there will be times an external release is more convenient, or a fob release. In this case the level of convenience is very situational especially when we’re talking the width of a F-150, I can easily reach across my bolt, not so much the case in our trucks.
 
Yep. I specifically asked at the Blythewood event if the charge port position was staying as shown on the concepts and I was told "Yes". So it would make sense that the Harvester gas door also stays.
This doesn’t make much sense. If they leave the Harvester gas filler door where it is that would be a long and convoluted filler neck to a tank under the rear seat.
 
This doesn’t make much sense. If they leave the Harvester gas filler door where it is that would be a long and convoluted filler neck to a tank under the rear seat.
I should rephrase. By "make sense", I meant that it may match the location of the concepts. I understand what you mean by a convoluted filler neck and that wouldn't make sense. I didn't specifically ask about the fuel filler door since I wasn't planning on buying the harvester. Maybe ask someone who is visiting at the Seattle event to find out.
 
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The screen isn’t unnecessary, it’s an additional option. If it can be opened via an app on your phone the vehicle is also capable of using software based interface to open/close. This gives options, not like your passenger will be able to flip to that screen and open the frunk while driving. I’m not saying the button should be screen only, I’m saying the option should be on the screen as there will be times it’s more convenient, just like there will be times an external release is more convenient, or a fob release. In this case the level of convenience is very situational especially when we’re talking the width of a F-150, I can easily reach across my bolt, not so much the case in our trucks.
A lot of the above could be solved by programmable buttons in reach of the passenger. I am just not sure why the passenger needs control as all older models whether manual lever or electronically controlled were controlled by the driver but maybe I am missing something.
 
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Yep. I specifically asked at the Blythewood event if the charge port position was staying as shown on the concepts and I was told "Yes". So it would make sense that the Harvester gas door also stays.
I’m not sure how I feel about this, I’ve not given that much thought to the charge port location, but last time I was at a Supercharger I could back in my Bolt and reach the front for easier exit because of the parking lot layout, but while I don’t tow very often I’m not sure how happy I would be if I’m required to back in to charge at most public chargers
 
I should rephrase. By "make sense", I meant that it may match the location of the concepts. I understand what you mean by a convoluted filler neck and that wouldn't make sense. I didn't specifically ask about the fuel filler door since I wasn't planning on buying the harvester. Maybe ask someone who is visiting at the Seattle event to find out.
Oh, sorry
 
A lot of the above could be solved by programmable buttons in reach of the passenger. I am just not sure why the passenger needs control as all older models whether manual lever or electronically controlled were controlled by the driver but maybe I am missing something.
I’ll give an example, it will sound contrived and have other solutions based upon n vehicle (phone, fob, external) but just bear with me, as I’ve dealt with this. Parked in a lot, you go in the store and return, someone wasn’t very considerate and parked a little to close, this vehicle has no app, and the doors were unlocked but I don’t have the fob (the driver was still in the store, for the bathroom) , and unfortunately there’s no external release, so I had to climb through the passenger side stretch over the console and fumble around the wheel to find the button.

There’s not enough reason to give the passenger a physical button you can tell to be for the frunk or rear when you already have dedicated buttons on the drivers area, just add simple toggles (like the shown outlets button) on the right most side of the screen under the exterior tab when in park. A simple clean option for when it’s needed and not in the way of its not
 
The screen isn’t unnecessary, it’s an additional option. If it can be opened via an app on your phone the vehicle is also capable of using software based interface to open/close. This gives options, not like your passenger will be able to flip to that screen and open the frunk while driving. I’m not saying the button should be screen only, I’m saying the option should be on the screen as there will be times it’s more convenient, just like there will be times an external release is more convenient, or a fob release. In this case the level of convenience is very situational especially when we’re talking the width of a F-150, I can easily reach across my bolt, not so much the case in our trucks.
OK. Then I’m on board with that. I thought you meant no button so thanks for clarifying
 
OK. Then I’m on board with that. I thought you meant no button so thanks for clarifying
There’s only one button I think is unnecessary, but that’s been well discussed, and even then I’m not opposed to options. If I’m at a campsite I can see myself opening the door and using the physical buttons to open the Frunk, if an external is non existent or otherwise disabled, but if I arrive at camp, and start to adjust my lights, maybe open the charge door (assuming that fuel icon is for that) it might also be more convenient in that moment to open the frunk all in the same location. Like I said it’s all situational so I’m just hoping we get the options, but I’m not asking for removal of the physical opener
 
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