Still guessing Highlander. They already had a hybrid-might as well go full RV as the hybrids were hard to come by.
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I know I said this before. Speculation is that it will have the Highlander name. Part of that BZ group.
Given the entire concept of buying a vehicle is often based on aesthetics and emotions vs actual specs, it will be interesting to see how the numbers play out when sales begin. Scout has heavily marketed the history and nostalgia. If EREV sales hold true, is that a nod to the marketing?
Regardless, I also agree 100%. BEV reservations are from people who will be buying a BEV as their next vehicle regardless of the MFG. EREV, not so much.
I think marketing will play a role in converting EREV reservations to sales but it's entirely possible that a number will not pursue this as an option and buy ICE again for their next vehicle while others, having had so much time to contemplate it will just change to BEV. I could see as much as 40% of EREV reservations being cancelled out by these 2 factors. (20% ICE and 20% BEV)
I have to wonder what the resale value of EREV will be 5 years after they launch if the industry has already moved past it by then. Though I think many are hoping to keep their Scout for a long time so wouldn't really be affected.
I had thought that perhaps EREV owners would be able to retrofit a BEV only solution down the road but in reality, I don't think that would be worthwhile if the vehicle is then having to be re-certified by the EPA, crash-test validations, emissions reclassification, etc. If it's not designed into the original product, which it isn't, I don't think this will ever be an option.
I could easily see a situation where EREV owners simply remove the gas engine/accessories, upgrade the battery pack with extra modules (since gas tank sits where those modules would have been in BEV form), do a software update, and drive away in a full on BEV. This would more likely be a cottage industry led initiative however I could also see Scout doing a BEV retrofit program on older cars, let's say 10-20 years from now depending on interest.
It was interesting to see that BMW is using something similar in the new iX3.
This is a nice comparison of 4680 vs 4695
The capacity of the energy type 4695 is 32.5Ah, the power is 119Wh, and the functional type is 29.7Ah, 109.6Wh, compared with 93.86Wh of EVE 4680 battery, the energy type 4695 increases the power by 27%.
The specific energy of energy type 4695 is 280Wh/kg (the specific energy of EVE 4680 battery is 264.4Wh/kg), and the power type is 260Wh/kg, which is the current technical level. According to the information from last year's conference, the long-term goal is 350Wh/kg, and the short-term goal is 280-300Wh/kg.
While I guess a few EV's have had battery replacements (due to damage), I suspect more are totalled at that point. Very few have probably had battery upgrades - it might be a smaller niche at this point than actual ICE to EV conversions. Changing chemistry and battery types might be a tad harder than doing a gas to diesel swap. All the components are potentially unique to the original battery type (charge rates, cooling, cell voltages).
IIRC most of the golf cart conversions from lead acid to lipo require new wiring, controllers, and chargers - plus generally go from brushed to brush less motors at the same time. Virtually all the electronics get gutted and only the frame lives on.
IIRC most of the golf cart conversions from lead acid to lipo require new wiring, controllers, and chargers - plus generally go from brushed to brush less motors at the same time. Virtually all the electronics get gutted and only the frame lives on.
Maybe 40 years from now when the next gen starts collecting and rehab’ing them and they become designated post apocalyptic transport wagons.
I feel like it’s a misinterpretation of something similar to what Jamie said in that podcast, something along the lines of one model will come first, in reference to Traveler v Terra but not necessarily the powertrain. Because the traveler is clearly the popular of the two.
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People are just taking speculation to a whole new level. People are taking Scout doing business and tending to the bigger audience to get started before opening fully. As BEV going away forever. People need to get a life, and learn the auto industry.
Exactly. That’s how I took it was traveler would come out, with both powertrains.
exactly what I was thinking after the podcast, which I think is very reasonable, I would struggle with my patience if they launch the Terra without BEV but I don’t see that happening
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