How about a cheap version that i can actually take offroad

[lancasel]

Why can't they make a cheap version? One that you can actually take off road. This is the problem with carmakers, they make cars so expensive that you can't afford them or they are too costly to actually use them for what they should be used for. I am not taking a 50-70K vehicle off roading in the brush or in a mud pit. Jeep has the same problem, they forgot what the truck was originally for. Taking it off road for hunting, rock climbing or just plain fun. I want a 25k truck that has the basics, no computer screen or fancy gadgets. just a plain simple vehicle to have fun in. I also want a gas powered version. If I have to change an engine out, it under 5k, to change a battery out is 20k. NOT EVERYONE WANTS AN EV!

 

[Scoutsie]

I see your “NOT EVERYONE WANTS AN EV!” and raise you a “NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO KEEP SUPPORTING THE OIL/GAS INDUSTRY!” If you want a sub-$25K off-roader with neither bells nor whistle, perhaps buy a used one from the previous century? I don’t think this is the Droid you’re looking for. It’s a cool idea and it’s not the first time someone’s rolled up on this forum to say this, though. You’d get a lot further with the forum regulars if you delivered this with less vitriol: that I can say with confidence. Scout Motors does look at the forum, so your voice is heard.

Stay fresh, cheese.

 

[cyure]

If you are looking for a gas powered, no screens, sub-25k vehicle it seems like you would be looking in the used market. With the discounts on Jeeps lately you might be able to get a new one close to that price, but everything these days has some sort of screen it seems. Everyone has their needs with a vehicle and I wish you luck in finding what works for you. The Scout as described works for me and that’s why I’m here.

Welcome to the forum and Scout Motors does interact with us here. Good luck to you.

 

[R1TVT]

Why can't they make a cheap version? One that you can actually take off road. This is the problem with carmakers, they make cars so expensive that you can't afford them or they are too costly to actually use them for what they should be used for. I am not taking a 50-70K vehicle off roading in the brush or in a mud pit. Jeep has the same problem, they forgot what the truck was originally for. Taking it off road for hunting, rock climbing or just plain fun. I want a 25k truck that has the basics, no computer screen or fancy gadgets. just a plain simple vehicle to have fun in. I also want a gas powered version. If I have to change an engine out, it under 5k, to change a battery out is 20k. NOT EVERYONE WANTS AN EV!

You're on the wrong site, but problem solved, just watch the tarrifs though... Dang - its an EV, so maybe not. LOL

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

You're on the wrong site, but problem solved, just watch the tarrifs though... Dang - its an EV, so maybe not. LOL

What’s really sad is that I could actually come up with many uses for this on the ranch: it could go places I don’t want to drive my Lightning. But we (realistically) can’t get one here.

 

[dreamweaver]

Why can't they make a cheap version? One that you can actually take off road. This is the problem with carmakers, they make cars so expensive that you can't afford them or they are too costly to actually use them for what they should be used for. I am not taking a 50-70K vehicle off roading in the brush or in a mud pit. Jeep has the same problem, they forgot what the truck was originally for. Taking it off road for hunting, rock climbing or just plain fun. I want a 25k truck that has the basics, no computer screen or fancy gadgets. just a plain simple vehicle to have fun in. I also want a gas powered version. If I have to change an engine out, it under 5k, to change a battery out is 20k. NOT EVERYONE WANTS AN EV!

Welcome to the Scout community.

Who knows this could be a second or third year idea.

 

[R1TVT]

Isn't that what these are for anyway? Can Am Maverick side-by-side or similar?

 

[J Alynn]

Why can't they make a cheap version? One that you can actually take off road. This is the problem with carmakers, they make cars so expensive that you can't afford them or they are too costly to actually use them for what they should be used for. I am not taking a 50-70K vehicle off roading in the brush or in a mud pit. Jeep has the same problem, they forgot what the truck was originally for. Taking it off road for hunting, rock climbing or just plain fun. I want a 25k truck that has the basics, no computer screen or fancy gadgets. just a plain simple vehicle to have fun in. I also want a gas powered version. If I have to change an engine out, it under 5k, to change a battery out is 20k. NOT EVERYONE WANTS AN EV!

I’ll try a new approach and not be angry like all my fellow forum members.
The average new car price in America is $48,000. Sadly that was a week ago before the tariff nonsense-if it happens the average price will climb well over $50K-sadly! With the price of materials, safety features, etc… the best way for SM to be successful is to take on the competition head to head. The features you say you don’t want (beyond EV because that is flat out not happening) cost pennie’s compared to the big items - the frame, R&D, safety, the axles and the other core items necessary for you to be able to off-road. SO the quandary is-do they build stripped hard core basic 4x4’s and sell to the 5%’s or add $8-$12K and appeal and sell to the 80% (I know-I excluded 15% for those who are priced out no matter what or prefer a road warrior rather than off-roader). From a business perspective the answer is not the one you desire.
Perhaps a basic used 2021 Bronco would serve you perfectly. Good luck on your journey for your perfect vehicle. Perhaps I’ll pass you someday in my Scout.

 

[J Alynn]

Wooooo-Saaaaaaa!!!!

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Perhaps a basic used 2021 Bronco would serve you perfectly. Good luck on your journey for your perfect vehicle. Perhaps I’ll pass you someday in my Scout.

Now be a good Scout and give a fellow a tow to the next town, don't just pass them.

 

[Scoutsie]

I’ll try a new approach and not be angry like all my fellow forum members.

Who’s angry? I’m trying to provide legit guidance to a new guy out over here!

 

[LastDayScout]

Isn't that what these are for anyway? Can Am Maverick side-by-side or similar?

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Back when ATVs/4 wheelers first became popular in the 80s I remember my dad thought it was the best thing since sliced bread because he didn’t have to take his truck in the woods or mud when he was hunting. Indeed the utv/side by side is often a way more capable off road vehicle.

Also, if you want a gas or diesel Scout there are many really nice ones available for sale. Better yet find a not so nice one and get it back in the road.

 

[lancasel]

I see your “NOT EVERYONE WANTS AN EV!” and raise you a “NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO KEEP SUPPORTING THE OIL/GAS INDUSTRY!” If you want a sub-$25K off-roader with neither bells nor whistle, perhaps buy a used one from the previous century? I don’t think this is the Droid you’re looking for. It’s a cool idea and it’s not the first time someone’s rolled up on this forum to say this, though. You’d get a lot further with the forum regulars if you delivered this with less vitriol: that I can say with confidence. Scout Motors does look at the forum, so your voice is heard.

Stay fresh, cheese.

VITROL! As in highly enthusiastic! Yes I understand the whole gas thing with the younger generation. There are plenty of us old people whole love International trucks and want to see a gas powered version. I believe they could produce a stripped down version for those who are more into the basics like the original Scouts were.

 

[lancasel]

I’ll try a new approach and not be angry like all my fellow forum members.
The average new car price in America is $48,000. Sadly that was a week ago before the tariff nonsense-if it happens the average price will climb well over $50K-sadly! With the price of materials, safety features, etc… the best way for SM to be successful is to take on the competition head to head. The features you say you don’t want (beyond EV because that is flat out not happening) cost pennie’s compared to the big items - the frame, R&D, safety, the axles and the other core items necessary for you to be able to off-road. SO the quandary is-do they build stripped hard core basic 4x4’s and sell to the 5%’s or add $8-$12K and appeal and sell to the 80% (I know-I excluded 15% for those who are priced out no matter what or prefer a road warrior rather than off-roader). From a business perspective the answer is not the one you desire.
Perhaps a basic used 2021 Bronco would serve you perfectly. Good luck on your journey for your perfect vehicle. Perhaps I’ll pass you someday in my Scout.

I do understand the business aspect of it and I agree with what you are saying from a financial stand point for the company. I am only trying to put it in the heads of those in charge that those of us who are old school international owners like the gas powered no frills vehicles that you can actually use for the purpose of what the original design was for. Farming, hunting and off-rodaing.

 

[lancasel]

You're on the wrong site, but problem solved, just watch the tarrifs though... Dang - its an EV, so maybe not. LOL

Ok now that is hilarious.

 

[lancasel]

If you are looking for a gas powered, no screens, sub-25k vehicle it seems like you would be looking in the used market. With the discounts on Jeeps lately you might be able to get a new one close to that price, but everything these days has some sort of screen it seems. Everyone has their needs with a vehicle and I wish you luck in finding what works for you. The Scout as described works for me and that’s why I’m here.

Welcome to the forum and Scout Motors does interact with us here. Good luck to you.

If the Scout motors team really does read these, I hope it makes it to the CEO of Scout motors. I know that he is sold on EV's from his interviews but a gas powered vehicle is still desirable to many of us older people. I think they should go to the International show in June and talk to people who own the originals and see how they feel.

 

[THil08]

If the Scout motors team really does read these, I hope it makes it to the CEO of Scout motors. I know that he is sold on EV's from his interviews but a gas powered vehicle is still desirable to many of us older people. I think they should go to the International show in June and talk to people who own the originals and see how they feel.

They are going to the international show this June with both concepts. And these new Scouts are community driven, most of the old Scout owners love how these ones are. Especially since they know that International and Scout were the innovators of the time. If they didn’t go out of business this is how Scouts would be today, they most likely would have beaten Rivian to it.

CASE CLOSED!

 

[R1TVT]

There's another important aspect to keep in mind in this discussion, and that is business viability. We have seen the skeletons of those that have tried and failed at this game, but they were not Scout. Rivian has been an exception and really "exceptional" considering their launch occurred when the world shut down and the supply chain stammered to a halt.

Scout is fortunate in that they have 4 very important things working in their favor.

1 Scout's legacy & history
2 VW's backing
3 Almost a decade of EV truck development & learnings that will have occurred, prior to launch date
4 A pure BEV truck AND a EREV option w/ Harvester FOR BUYERS

At the end of it all, Scout needs to be a going concern and purely viable from a business perspective. Not to sound crass, but Scoutn NEEDS to look at the demographics and meet the market where there is the most demand. If you aren't comfortable with pure BEV, get the Harvester... It runs on gas!

 

[THil08]

Now be a good Scout and give a fellow a tow to the next town, don't just pass them.

True, by the time the Scout comes out that bronco’s engine would have been replaced 2 and when your passing it by, it will be needing to be towed to get its 3rd replacement.

FYI abc was told that in the beginning of Fall of 2027 production would start to take place, but take it with a grain of salt. But it seems they got that information from our favorite CEO Scott Keogh. Just a hint he gave this week.

 

[J Alynn]

If the Scout motors team really does read these, I hope it makes it to the CEO of Scout motors. I know that he is sold on EV's from his interviews but a gas powered vehicle is still desirable to many of us older people. I think they should go to the International show in June and talk to people who own the originals and see how they feel.

The problem is you can’t just swap out the mechanicals and suddenly make it an ICE. We all know it’s way more complicated. If you need to have gas by the harvester or as suggested buy an old Scout. If you want simple and old school pull the trigger. But SM is roughly 4 years into the company and process. You can’t just make a hard left U-turn and start over.
I think everyone that keeps asking should team up and start a Scout conversion company and retrothese new scouts with old scout motors, Dana parts and drum brakes. Along with optional A/C. I would LOVE to have $60-70K sitting around to resto an old Scout but I can’t justify going back in time 40 years to have a daily driver-because at that cost it would have to be my daily. I like all the convenience, comfort etc of new cars. I truly get the dilemma but it just doesn’t pen out as a business. Maybe SM will have enough employees who want to work OT and they could start a skunk works division restoring. But pitching these ICE requests on this forum is like being a Yankees fan and telling the crowd of Phillies fans around you that they picked the wrong team. (Not a Phillies fan FYI-my closest pro team but their fans are means as hell).
Unfortunately (and I am being civilized-in case readers aren’t sure) this vehicle just isn’t right for everyone. We don’t call refrigerator manufacture and tell them t go back to incandescent bulbs instead of the blinding LED. It’s progress and it’s change and not everyone deals well with it. I’ve stated many a time on this great forum and will again that I was flat out pissed when they stated EV and not ICE.
But these times they is a chang’n ….