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[apex96]

Private companies make the biggest changes in America, not the government. Remember that young padawans. I’ve been saying it since the day I got on here, but yet I’ve been the one getting shut down when I say it. Charging companies will build out the infrastructure with better tech than the government supplied charged would have been.

The US government doesn’t build chargers… what it does/can do is setup grant programs and supply funding for states take advantage of and award to private industry to buildout infrastructure… most of these chargers would not be available today without state and federal dollars being spent to incentivize their buildout…. Remember the government doesn’t do the grunt work, they spend the money through contracts and grants

 

[robothero]

Jeep

http://bit.ly/4sqU0Rh

Jeep quadrupling down on the "We've tried nothing and are out of ideas" strategy.

 

[pwrofgrayskull]

My goodness there’s still a lot of Jeep hate here. It sure sounds like they have some brand repair to do if they want to survive. Out of curiosity, does this criticism originate from first-hand experience or is this third party brand perception? Either way I’m guessing Scout Motors should be taking notes in order to not make similar mistakes.

 

[cyure]

My goodness there’s still a lot of Jeep hate here. It sure sounds like they have some brand repair to do if they want to survive. Out of curiosity, does this criticism originate from first-hand experience or is this third party brand perception? Either way I’m guessing Scout Motors should be taking notes in order to not make similar mistakes.

Wrangler owner for 13 years. I love her, but I wouldn’t buy a new one because I can’t get the same lifetime warranty I have. I don’t worry about repairs because I just have a $100 deductible, but if I didn’t have that I would be replacing her right now with something else.

 

[6-ScoutFamily]

I kind of liked the BuzzCut!

 

[RodorW]

Never owned a Jeep (technically we had a Dodge nitro) but a family full of mechanics that own and play with Dodge Jeep Ram, but won’t work on them if they’re newer than 06 I believe, the Chrysler and nitro are still running strong with little issue, but after briefly owning a 2020s charger I personally don’t care for anything coming from stalantis

 

[robothero]

My goodness there’s still a lot of Jeep hate here. It sure sounds like they have some brand repair to do if they want to survive. Out of curiosity, does this criticism originate from first-hand experience or is this third party brand perception? Either way I’m guessing Scout Motors should be taking notes in order to not make similar mistakes.

Former owner of a 96 cherokee. Great car, felt like a tank despite its size. Everything in it worked, minor stuff was easily fixable by a high schooler.

Still love the design and overall silhouette of that type of vehicle (driven by love for Scout, Bronco, Land Rover etc.).

Hated the direction they took it in the next few generations, the square rugged box turned into a rounded orb basically identical to every other rounded orb out there. Quality tanked, everything felt cheap inside and out. My understanding from people who owned in the later generation is this was also reflected in repairability/frequency of repairs.

Can't speak for dealer experience but given Jeep is tacked on to a dozen other car brands at dealers around us I'm sure its crap.

 

[speedrye]

My goodness there’s still a lot of Jeep hate here. It sure sounds like they have some brand repair to do if they want to survive. Out of curiosity, does this criticism originate from first-hand experience or is this third party brand perception? Either way I’m guessing Scout Motors should be taking notes in order to not make similar mistakes.

Having worked in a Jeep shop and regularly wheeling my Toyota with Jeeps, I love the concept, but the execution is poor. I liked the TJ/LJ, but nothing really newer since they became soft. The old ones were simple, and while not incredibly reliable, they were easy to operate and fix (minus the usual death wobble) with parts available easily most anywhere. Now, they're mostly plastic and computers thrown over some solid axles. We won't even get into the blasphemy of what they've done to the Cherokee and Grand Cherokee names...

 

[Indy]

My goodness there’s still a lot of Jeep hate here. It sure sounds like they have some brand repair to do if they want to survive. Out of curiosity, does this criticism originate from first-hand experience or is this third party brand perception? Either way I’m guessing Scout Motors should be taking notes in order to not make similar mistakes.

I used to have a 82 Jeep cj7. Loved that car. Like others have said, I'm not sure about the direction Jeep has gone. Still like them, but I like the older ones more.

 

[cyure]

I used to have a 82 Jeep cj7. Loved that car. Like others have said, I'm not sure about the direction Jeep has gone. Still like them, but I like the older ones more.

Exactly

 

[strider]

My goodness there’s still a lot of Jeep hate here. It sure sounds like they have some brand repair to do if they want to survive. Out of curiosity, does this criticism originate from first-hand experience or is this third party brand perception? Either way I’m guessing Scout Motors should be taking notes in order to not make similar mistakes.

I think you'll find it's FCA/Stellantis hate. I had a TJ and loved it. Needed something bigger so bought a KJ CRD. Engine was garbage on that but replaced it with a WK CRD and that vehicle is outstanding. Jeep chassis/AWD system with Mercedes diesel is an outstanding combo. Since FCA/Stellantis took over they have been coasting on their customer's goodwill, simply recycling the same crap and not innovating, raising prices to bail out the other terrible brands. Jeep needs to be spun out to stand alone, maybe with RAM. Those do not fit with the rest of Stellantis' brands. Dodge and Chrysler should be put out of their misery, like Pontiac.

 

[cyure]

I think you'll find it's FCA/Stellantis hate. I had a TJ and loved it. Needed something bigger so bought a KJ CRD. Engine was garbage on that but replaced it with a WK CRD and that vehicle is outstanding. Jeep chassis/AWD system with Mercedes diesel is an outstanding combo. Since FCA/Stellantis took over they have been coasting on their customer's goodwill, simply recycling the same crap and not innovating, raising prices to bail out the other terrible brands. Jeep needs to be spun out to stand alone, maybe with RAM. Those do not fit with the rest of Stellantis' brands. Dodge and Chrysler should be put out of their misery, like Pontiac.

My son wanted to drive a Charger or a Challenger before he bought his Elantra N. We drove up in the Supra. Like the salesman walked up and we were talking to him through the window. Asked to test drive. He said they didn’t allow that. You had to purchase the car and then they would you drive it. I said look do you see what we are driving? Didn’t matter. Those two were out instantly.

When we went to buy the Supra it was on the showroom floor and they knew we were coming and had brought their track Supra for us to test drive. Now that was a smart salesman.

 

[robothero]

When we went to buy the Supra it was on the showroom floor and they knew we were coming and had brought their track Supra for us to test drive. Now that was a smart salesman.

All dealers should operate like this. I let you know what I'm looking for and you have it ready for when I get in or I go somewhere else.

As soon as I get the "aaah, someone just bought that one/its unavailable" I just turn around and leave.

 

[Schmeegz]

Currently own an '18 JLUR Wrangler and had an '06 before that. Love them, absolute tanks in the snow and off-roading..... had to fix a lot more than I care to admit on both of them. Looking for a truck now, and the Gladiator is just too small (interior) for my preference.

 

[cyure]

Atlas

VW Is Killing US ID 4 Production to Focus on the Big, Gas-Powered Atlas Instead

VW says it's shifting U.S. production to the gas Atlas to "focus" on "higher‑volume models that support sustained growth in North America."

trib.al

 

[J Alynn]

I think you'll find it's FCA/Stellantis hate. I had a TJ and loved it. Needed something bigger so bought a KJ CRD. Engine was garbage on that but replaced it with a WK CRD and that vehicle is outstanding. Jeep chassis/AWD system with Mercedes diesel is an outstanding combo. Since FCA/Stellantis took over they have been coasting on their customer's goodwill, simply recycling the same crap and not innovating, raising prices to bail out the other terrible brands. Jeep needs to be spun out to stand alone, maybe with RAM. Those do not fit with the rest of Stellantis' brands. Dodge and Chrysler should be put out of their misery, like Pontiac.

Stellantis is a big factor but I know lots of people with various jeeps -old and new and they constantly have issues so for me I’d never buy one

 

[J Alynn]

All dealers should operate like this. I let you know what I'm looking for and you have it ready for when I get in or I go somewhere else.

As soon as I get the "aaah, someone just bought that one/its unavailable" I just turn around and leave.

Years ago I had a family friend (retired-in her late 70’s). She drove a Lincoln continental-every year at annual inspection (just for her) they would drop a brand new loaner) and take hers to the shop. She bought a new one every 2 years because that salesman was smart enough to have them concierge her and it worked. Those are the great salespeople and it’s just good business on both sides of the transaction

 

[Logan]

Former owner of a 96 cherokee. Great car, felt like a tank despite its size. Everything in it worked, minor stuff was easily fixable by a high schooler.

Still love the design and overall silhouette of that type of vehicle (driven by love for Scout, Bronco, Land Rover etc.).

Hated the direction they took it in the next few generations, the square rugged box turned into a rounded orb basically identical to every other rounded orb out there. Quality tanked, everything felt cheap inside and out. My understanding from people who owned in the later generation is this was also reflected in repairability/frequency of repairs.

Can't speak for dealer experience but given Jeep is tacked on to a dozen other car brands at dealers around us I'm sure its crap.

I've still got my 97 Grand Cherokee .

Could use a bit of love in the steering/suspension bushings. But otherwise ticking along great .

It recently needed a transmission (the overdrive thrust bearing was bad + a leak), and has had 2 radiators and water pumps over the years. It even skipped a tooth on the timing chain (that one was fun to diagnose). But generally has been pretty reliable.

 

[Indy]

I've still got my 97 Grand Cherokee .

Could use a bit of love in the steering/suspension bushings. But otherwise ticking along great .

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It recently needed a transmission (the overdrive thrust bearing was bad + a leak), and has had 2 radiators and water pumps over the years. But generally has been pretty reliable.

Nice! I also had a 98 Cherokee. I only had it for about 1.5yrs but it was a fun drive. Still love my 82 cj7 more personally. just so many fond memories. My Cherokee was also white.

 

[LastDayScout]

Jeep quadrupling down on the "We've tried nothing and are out of ideas" strategy.

The new Cherokee is pretty good looking and gets good economy for a gas powered vehicle. I’m sure it will sell well. That said I wish it were more like the XJ.