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Reuters: Volkswagen recalls nearly 100,000 EVs over battery issues

This article has me wondering who supplies batteries for VW, and who will supply SM with batteries. Anyone know?

Saw another comment on here about the 12/16V batteries failing regularly on other EVs. That would suck to have such a simple reliability problem! I hope all the electrics can be well-engineered so they are extremely reliable.
 
Reuters: Volkswagen recalls nearly 100,000 EVs over battery issues

This article has me wondering who supplies batteries for VW, and who will supply SM with batteries. Anyone know?

Saw another comment on here about the 12/16V batteries failing regularly on other EVs. That would suck to have such a simple reliability problem! I hope all the electrics can be well-engineered so they are extremely reliable.
Our 2023 ID.4 AWD Pro S is on the recall list (full NHTSA doc here) and according to that document, it's SK batteries made in Commerce, GA impacting 44K cars of which only 1% are supposed to have the defect. This will be the 4th recall for us, behind door handles, software, and passenger airbag bolts. This has been both the most reliable and most recalled car I’ve ever had and really gives me pause wanting to jump into a first model year Scout...but thankfully I'm a BEV reservation holder so I don't think that'll be an issue.
 
Reuters: Volkswagen recalls nearly 100,000 EVs over battery issues

This article has me wondering who supplies batteries for VW, and who will supply SM with batteries. Anyone know?

Saw another comment on here about the 12/16V batteries failing regularly on other EVs. That would suck to have such a simple reliability problem! I hope all the electrics can be well-engineered so they are extremely reliable.
I saw LG at one moment was mentioned. but also PowerCo is the likely supplier.
 
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I have a question for @Jamie@ScoutMotors and to my aging mind and mental slideshow over three years I don’t know if it’s ever been asked. Is the kink on the new traveler and Terra rear side glass the same angle as the original Scout II’s? Or was it tweaked to be a bit modernized
In the GreenCars video that was posted the other day, Chris says it's definitely an homage but not exact:
 
Our 2023 ID.4 AWD Pro S is on the recall list (full NHTSA doc here) and according to that document, it's SK batteries made in Commerce, GA impacting 44K cars of which only 1% are supposed to have the defect. This will be the 4th recall for us, behind door handles, software, and passenger airbag bolts. This has been both the most reliable and most recalled car I’ve ever had and really gives me pause wanting to jump into a first model year Scout...but thankfully I'm a BEV reservation holder so I don't think that'll be an issue.
Thanks for sharing your experience! I had wondered how the ID.4s were doing. Glad you seem happy with it.
 
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Reuters: Volkswagen recalls nearly 100,000 EVs over battery issues

This article has me wondering who supplies batteries for VW, and who will supply SM with batteries. Anyone know?

Saw another comment on here about the 12/16V batteries failing regularly on other EVs. That would suck to have such a simple reliability problem! I hope all the electrics can be well-engineered so they are extremely reliable.
So EVs use a 12v battery for accessories? I know my PHEV has one for the ICE and whenever the ICE runs it charges the 12v battery. I would think with an EV it would be a charging system off the main battery pack. I've also read that PHEV owners who try not to run the ICE at all have issues keeping the 12v charged
 
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So EVs use a 12v battery for accessories? I know my PHEV has one for the ICE and whenever the ICE runs it charges the 12v battery. I would think with an EV it would be acharging system off the main battery pack. I'va also read that PHEV owners who try not to run the ICE at all have issues keeping the 12v charged
Yes. The accessories run off a 12V battery.

The HVB (High Voltage Battery) charges the 12V battery through a DC to DC converter as needed.

With my Lightning, there is a common issue that people experience with OTA updates failing due to the 12V battery being below 90% SOC. This happened to me about a month ago. Auto updates scheduled for 2:00 AM when I won't be driving the truck. Came out the next morning and got the update failed due to low 12V state of charge message. Had to put a trickle charger on it the next night to get the 12V to a high enough SOC to do the update.

Scout Motors, please do a better job than Ford did with this issue of OTA updates. I really don't want to have to mess around with putting a trickle charger on the 12V in my new Scout to get software updates.
 
He did say 'batteries', so you are probably correct
When I first saw that video based on the title and thumbnail I was hoping for something more involved with the service guy showing so of the process and exactly what the “batteries” look like, so it’s harder to imagine going solely off the spoken story
 
Yes. The accessories run off a 12V battery.

The HVB (High Voltage Battery) charges the 12V battery through a DC to DC converter as needed.

With my Lightning, there is a common issue that people experience with OTA updates failing due to the 12V battery being below 90% SOC. This happened to me about a month ago. Auto updates scheduled for 2:00 AM when I won't be driving the truck. Came out the next morning and got the update failed due to low 12V state of charge message. Had to put a trickle charger on it the next night to get the 12V to a high enough SOC to do the update.

Scout Motors, please do a better job than Ford did with this issue of OTA updates. I really don't want to have to mess around with putting a trickle charger on the 12V in my new Scout to get software updates.

I haven’t had an issue with my Mustang or my Lightning. I replaced the Mustang’s 12V battery at about 3.5 years. Not because it had failed but because I usually replace batteries sometime in years 3-4.

I think the biggest issue is that people don’t want to replace their 12V battery on the proper life cycle. Most Pb-A batteries last 3-5 years before they really start to struggle. The internal structure (AGM, liquid, etc) doesn’t really matter for the lifetime except open cell batteries with liquid electrolytes usually fail sooner because people don’t maintain them.
 
I haven’t had an issue with my Mustang or my Lightning. I replaced the Mustang’s 12V battery at about 3.5 years. Not because it had failed but because I usually replace batteries sometime in years 3-4.

I think the biggest issue is that people don’t want to replace their 12V battery on the proper life cycle. Most Pb-A batteries last 3-5 years before they really start to struggle. The internal structure (AGM, liquid, etc) doesn’t really matter for the lifetime except open cell batteries with liquid electrolytes usually fail sooner because people don’t maintain them.
Agreed! Having worked in the auto industry for quite some time most people don't want to replace the batteries in the their car, seem to think they are going to last indefinitely, and then get mad when they do have to have the battery replaced.

Regarding the 12v in my Gen 2 Rivian, I had to have it replaced already as well, but because of a recall and my truck is a year old in 3 days. These things just happen sometimes and its part of vehicle ownership, sucks but its part of it.