Must have Scout, Must have Scout...Funny how easily people get brainwashed
Must have Scout, Must have Scout...Funny how easily people get brainwashed
I am more than happy with my 4.5 second Lightning’s acceleration.But OMG. The scouts at 3.5 s and similar features at $85k is apparently criminal. The TRX’s are cool, as are the Rapters but so few opportunities (at least in my neck of the woods) to enjoy the max thrill they offer.
I’ll stick with the Scout and first year issues over a stellantis product
Im sure people come on here and say the same thing these people are brainwashed by EV powertrains and the previous administration.Funny how easily people get brainwashed
My husband and I had had similar conversations. We will see a car like that on the road and game out what we would do differently. The answer is we would still be driving to Meijer for groceries. The Supra is the most expensive car we have ever owned, and that was before they raised the price, and there are times I won’t take it places because I don’t want anything to happen to it or it to get dirty.Many years ago I was on a flight seated next to a defense contractor. They showed me their “dream car” that they had just purchased. It was a $130k Corvette C6 ZR1.
I commented, “I couldn’t own something like that. I wouldn’t be comfortable driving it anywhere and I wouldn’t want it to get covered in dust.”
They looked at me like I was insane and said, “I drive it everywhere. It’s just money.”
That was the end of the conversation. To me, $130k for a car is just way beyond my comprehension, even today, but especially in 2009.
That sounds like my neighbor with the rolls royce, landrover, escalade, denali 3500, an what else that man has. He drives them each every week even with the wild nj weatherMany years ago I was on a flight seated next to a defense contractor. They showed me their “dream car” that they had just purchased. It was a $130k Corvette C6 ZR1.
I commented, “I couldn’t own something like that. I wouldn’t be comfortable driving it anywhere and I wouldn’t want it to get covered in dust.”
They looked at me like I was insane and said, “I drive it everywhere. It’s just money.”
That was the end of the conversation. To me, $130k for a car is just way beyond my comprehension, even today, but especially in 2009.
I think your sales figures for the TRX are off. Over 4,000 Final Editions were sold the last year of production. Total sales were over 10,000. Definitely a halo vehicle, though. It's not a stretch to say the Lighting was a failure. Ford lost money on every one they sold and sales were below projections. That doesn't mean the Lightning isn't a great vehicle. Not every automaker can absorb years of losses like Tesla did. I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision for Ford.And for a gassy truck that’s going to fall apart in a year or two…
The previous model TRX sold 1700 total units. But nobody is out here proclaiming that it’s the end of stupid big engines with insanely high prices.
The Lightning sold 125,000 units. But half the commentary is that it was a complete failure of a vehicle.
I will never understand the biases pundits embrace without even thinking about it.
Amen Brother!I think your sales figures for the TRX are off. Over 4,000 Final Editions were sold the last year of production. Total sales were over 10,000. Definitely a halo vehicle, though. It's not a stretch to say the Lighting was a failure. Ford lost money on every one they sold and sales were below projections. That doesn't mean the Lightning isn't a great vehicle. Not every automaker can absorb years of losses like Tesla did. I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision for Ford.
I keep telling myself $85K is my Scout cost and I keep trying to wrap that around my head as prior to Scout, most we ever spent was like $68k and that because I wanted my wife to treat herself because she works very hard and is our bread winner and she needed to treat herself for a change. Otherwise mid $50’s once or twice otherwise we tend to hang in the mid $40’s as we are frugal with most of our purchases-saving until we can get quality but not just throwing our money away. Short of a house the Scout will be most expensive purchase we’ve ever madeMany years ago I was on a flight seated next to a defense contractor. They showed me their “dream car” that they had just purchased. It was a $130k Corvette C6 ZR1.
I commented, “I couldn’t own something like that. I wouldn’t be comfortable driving it anywhere and I wouldn’t want it to get covered in dust.”
They looked at me like I was insane and said, “I drive it everywhere. It’s just money.”
That was the end of the conversation. To me, $130k for a car is just way beyond my comprehension, even today, but especially in 2009.
I think your sales figures for the TRX are off. Over 4,000 Final Editions were sold the last year of production. Total sales were over 10,000. Definitely a halo vehicle, though. It's not a stretch to say the Lighting was a failure. Ford lost money on every one they sold and sales were below projections. That doesn't mean the Lightning isn't a great vehicle. Not every automaker can absorb years of losses like Tesla did. I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision for Ford.
20 gold bars, 20 gold bars…. Manifest damn itMust have Scout, Must have Scout...
And nobody will ever post it from that point of view which is completely true and factual.Perhaps I have the wrong numbers for the TRX, but it doesn’t matter if it was 10k or some other, similarly small number of units sold, it was still an unmitigated failure in sales numbers based on the same arguments made for the Lightning—the best selling EV pickup—being a "failure.”
The narrative of “they lost money on every vehicle sold” is a weird way of saying, “the initial capital investments were spent and they hadn’t yet achieved full payback on those investments.”
When Scout sells its first vehicle, it will have “lost" more than $5B on that one vehicle. The second one will bring the “losses" down to $2.5B.
The way I rationalize it is I will be keeping her for a long time like the Wrangler. My plan is 12 to 15 years so amortized over that length of time it’s not bad at all.I keep telling myself $85K is my Scout cost and I keep trying to wrap that around my head as prior to Scout, most we ever spent was like $68k and that because I wanted my wife to treat herself because she works very hard and is our bread winner and she needed to treat herself for a change. Otherwise mid $50’s once or twice otherwise we tend to hang in the mid $40’s as we are frugal with most of our purchases-saving until we can get quality but not just throwing our money away. Short of a house the Scout will be most expensive purchase we’ve ever made
PBY, PBY, PBY. That’s my mantra till I either see PBY on one or see the available launch colors.20 gold bars, 20 gold bars…. Manifest damn it
Someone will claim Scout Motors to be a failure when its first quarter delivery numbers are 3000 units and not 30,000 units. When it “only" sells 15,000 units in Year 1, people will be certain.And nobody will ever post it from that point of view which is completely true and factual.
Yes but great exhaust sound….But OMG. The scouts at 3.5 s and similar features at $85k is apparently criminal. The TRX’s are cool, as are the Rapters but so few opportunities (at least in my neck of the woods) to enjoy the max thrill they offer.
I’ll stick with the Scout and first year issues over a stellantis product
Very true. That takes the sting out a bit.The way I rationalize it is I will be keeping her for a long time like the Wrangler. My plan is 12 to 15 years so amortized over that length of time it’s not bad at all.
You should just plan to wrap yours as a back up planPBY, PBY, PBY. That’s my mantra till I either see PBY on one or see the available launch colors.
During the 1960’s in my tender teens I had an uncle who was a musician, folk singer/song writer. Blue Grass was all the rage and I asked him if he could play Blue Grass. He said; “I’d like to be able to play Blue Grass—and then not.” Since then that has been my mantra for anything frivolous, expensive, outlandish. I’d like to have the money for that, and then keep the money and be a little more “Scottish” in my spending.My husband and I had had similar conversations. We will see a car like that on the road and game out what we would do differently. The answer is we would still be driving to Meijer for groceries. The Supra is the most expensive car we have ever owned, and that was before they raised the price, and there are times I won’t take it places because I don’t want anything to happen to it or it to get dirty.
Ugh, no. I just don’t like wraps. And my understanding is you have to have it redone every so often. And they have to take so many things off to wrap. How do I know they are going to put stuff back on correctly.You should just plan to wrap yours as a back up plan