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Assuming you've got a live and active/vigorous starter, the rest of it comes pretty quickly.

Honestly, sourdough bread is pretty forgiving, and most recipes are pretty simple (the one I use is literally flour, water, starter (which is itself technically just flour and water), and a tiny bit of salt). Yes it takes time, and yes it can be screwed up, but you'll get there.

When I was learning, I was literally making 4 loafs of bread a day, as I was feeding the starter 2x a day, and each feeding resulted in pouring off enough to make a batch of 2 loaves. And that went on for weeks. I was swimming in bread :D.

I typed this up for someone on my mountain biking forum. Adding it here in case it helps out.

Trying not to derail the other thread.

I started learning to make sourdough in 2017. I had to make the starter from scratch, which took like 6 weeks of feeding the starter two times a day.

Starter: The stuff that makes the bread rise. Its literally just 50/50 flour/water by volume, but importantly is full of bacteria (that makes the bubbles that rises the bread) , and acid (that gives it the sour taste).

Feeding: I have no idea how much starter you have. But here is how I operate.

  1. Pour down (like, down the drain, or into the trash) your starter until you have 4oz of net starter (goo) left.
  2. Add 4oz of water
  3. Add 4oz of flour
    1. notice that we keep the 50/50 ratio with this. You can actually do more/less, and its just fine, and sometimes you will choose to do that for various reasons
    2. like when a recipe calls for more starter to start with... make more here.
    3. like when you're storing it in the fridge, you may want a smaller container. I store a TOTAL of 4oz, and then the first time i feed it out of the fridge, I don't throw any away, I just add the 4oz/4oz above and let it sit).
  4. Mix
  5. Profit/start over at step 1 after 12-24 hours.
Its said that a "healthy" starter grows 2-4x in size within a 3-4hrs of feeding. If your starter can't at least double in volume in that time, you probably need to stick to a 12hour feeding schedule for a while (or your house temp is super low).

You can tell if the starter needs feeding, because it will look... nasty, flat, oily, droopy, with a bit of a liquid showing up on top. It sounds hard to recognize, and then you'll see it one morning after forgetting to feed the starter, and think "oh, thats what he meant". Its pretty obvious. But also... I've gone a few days at room temp, and still recovered it. Sour dough starter is pretty resilient.

Healthy starter looks... really really bubbly/frothy, and frankly, sometimes looks tasty by itself. You'll know it when you see it.

Making Bread: Basically, instead of pouring off/discarding the starter like you would with a feeding, you take the part that you would have thrown in the trash... and throw it in the recipe. This does mean that you need to look ahead for how much starter your recipe needs, and if you need to make more (as mentioned above), to make sure you don't accidentally use it all up. Because if you use it up, it... is gone, and you have to start over/find more starter.

The only other thing I'll mention, is that sourdough bread dough is a bit more fragile. I taught my mother to make it (remotely, like this), and she didn't have good success at first. Later she came to visit, and saw how we did it, and realized that she'd just been punching/manhandling the dough a lot more, because that is how she was used to treating normal yeast bread.

I normally let my bread rise in a bowl/banneton (rising basket), then cook them on a cookie sheet/normal baking tray. My wife prefers to cook her recipe in a pre-warmed enamel dutch oven lined with parchment paper, with about half the time with the lid closed, and half with the lid off. The lid on keeps it moist allowing it to rise more, the lid off gives it a nice crust.

Oh, also, sourdough breads like to be cooked hot. It makes them rise in the oven more (called an "oven spring"). I bake at 500f, my wife does hers at 500f for the first bit, then down to 450f when the lid comes off.
Awesome. I’ve played with cast iron Dutch oven wet baking but gave up when I ran out of counter space 🤣
 
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One of the more interesting things about Stoddards was the seemingly random flyfishing section tucked into the corner of the store. It was managed by a guy named Phil Klug, and it was considered the oldest and longest running tackle store in the USA at one point (over 200 years). Early in my career I worked in Boston (Downtown Crossing) and would swing in there to buy saltwater fly tying materials or eavesdrop on the fishing reports. When Orvis moved into Faneuil Hall, it was the beginning of the end for the fishing section. That was really a true gem of a store with so much character (and characters). Would be a great revival if someone could bring it back to life, but without parking (even worse now than it was in 2000), the internet will prevent that from happening.
You may appreciate this if you tie flys. I grew up next door to the Metz’s who developed so many hackle types. Jimmy Carter would visit once a year to tour there coups, and then fly fish with the owners. Was pretty cool
 
That's right, they did have fishing stuff. That was my go-to place to get gifts for my dad (knives, watches, etc) because it was such a neat, classy place. It really was a gem.

I don't remember Phil, but I think David was the guy who sharpened my knives and complained about the lack of respect people had for their knives. I kind of remember seeing him at the Temple Place store and at Chestnut Hill (that was my dad's favorite place to go kill time during family shopping trips while my mom and I went to Bloomingdale's and/or Filene's).

That would be a pretty great revival. I feel like the need for gentlemanly sporting goods (and teaching about gentlemanly sporting goods) is evergreen.



I would get yelled at because there were the telltale signs of my ex-husband running them through the dishwasher against my instructions (worn bolster, water spots, etc). His argument was that I wasn't making them sanitary with hot water and soap, that the dishwasher was more like an autoclave, etc. He didn't buy that it was bad for them. I get infuriated when I see a knife in a dishwasher. I figure that I am just doing the good work of the fascist knifeman. :ROFLMAO:



YES!!! It is cool to learn about the differences in blades. Japanese knives are really interesting. There's a guy I watch on YouTube who has a bunch of different knives for chopping vegetables and I love watching him do these precision cuts like it's the easiest thing in the world because he's not a butterfingers making minced onions fly everywhere. I love that they all have a name and specific function, and that a chunky knife that looks like it should feel awkward will make quick work out of some hard-skinned gourds.


That's my trouble: I can never get the angle right, so that's why I take them to someone who doesn't have shaky hands and low confidence.


I do have a rotary whetstone and a regular whetstone, I'm just too chicken to try them out in fear of ruining a knife beyond repair. At this point, though, at least two aren't really in heirloom shape anymore. I can stand to lose one by accident. Thanks for the tips!!! Knifeman would demonstrate the newly-sharpened blade out for me by slicing a piece of butcher paper a couple times. I never got to see the newly-honed edge.
All this time we’ve had our “club” and you never mentioned your knife skills. Now your efficiency makes so much more sense
 
You may appreciate this if you tie flys. I grew up next door to the Metz’s who developed so many hackle types. Jimmy Carter would visit once a year to tour there coups, and then fly fish with the owners. Was pretty cool
I have some Metz hackles for sure! Legendary stuff. (y)

A lot of my saltwater stuff uses synthetic materials too - we tie a lot of baitfish, squid. anchovies, etc.

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A few more random photos, because... why not :).

Bonus points if you can spot the whale :P.



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And we live near one of the larger tulip festivals in the country, so its a nearly yearly thing make it up there. And I can't NOT bring the camera :D.

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She’s seen her days of racing on Short Courses, then long courses. And now just being an emotional support RC lol. Recently ballooned my left rear tire. And ripped off the wheel mounting hex. Soon I’ll be putting on foam tires, and aluminum wheel mounting hex’s.

Are the images showing up on y'alls end? For me they are black.
 

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Found the whale! It’s in that first pic.
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Nice!

I wondered if anyone would find it. Its pretty hidden/small there (I should have uploaded the actual image, not just a screenshot).

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Strangely, I've never been to that island, and NOT seen a whale. But getting them on camera is harder.

And RC cars. I love my RC cars. I love driving them by the lake when I’m taking a fishing break.
My neighbor used to race. And after a long absence from it, he's building up a vehicle right now (custom building it all). And plans on racing the series at the local track here.

I've really only done the crawler thing. But they sure do work well for getting/keeping kids attention while hiking. Especially if the terrain is "just right" in terms of difficulty (which, is tough).
 
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Nice!

I wondered if anyone would find it. Its pretty hidden/small there (I should have uploaded the actual image, not just a screenshot).

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Strangely, I've never been to that island, and NOT seen a whale. But getting them on camera is harder.


My neighbor used to race. And after a long absence from it, he's building up a vehicle right now (custom building it all). And plans on racing the series at the local track here.

I've really only done the crawler thing. But they sure do work well for getting/keeping kids attention while hiking. Especially if the terrain is "just right" in terms of difficulty (which, is tough).
Which island?