The Tax Man Cometh?

[MasterSpam]

We all knew the tax man would eventually figure out a way to rake in the dough on EVs...
I just didn't think it would be so soon.

Consumer Reports statement: New clean vehicle tax would be punitive and wildly out of step with what Americans pay in federal gas tax - CR Advocacy

Older Americans would be disproportionately affected, according to new CR analysis WASHINGTON, D.C.—This week members of the U.S. House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee advanced a…

advocacy.consumerreports.org

 

[Cranky Canuck]

Don't only blame the tax man, this has oil industry lobbying written all over it.

 

[cyure]

Don't only blame the tax man, this has oil industry lobbying written all over it.

Totally. God forbid we have nice things.

 

[MasterSpam]

Totally. God forbid we have nice things.

Ain't that the truth!

 

[J Alynn]

Here is a parallel article that CR wrote as well, similar to @MasterSpam

Punitive Clean Vehicle Tax Would Harm Consumers—and Especially Seniors—But Won’t Solve Road Funding Shortfalls - CR Advocacy

Congress has proposed a new annual federal tax on clean vehicle owners. As currently written, in a bill before the House of Representatives, the tax…

advocacy.consumerreports.org

 

[LastDayScout]

I wish this vehicle and demographic would get a punitive tax...

 

[dreamweaver]

Don't only blame the tax man, this has oil industry lobbying written all over it.

That is absolutely what this is.

 

[dreamweaver]

I wish this vehicle and demographic would get a punitive tax...View attachment 6478

To many states no longer do any emission testing. So this is what we get.

 

[LastDayScout]

To many states no longer do any emission testing. So this is what we get.

That is correct.

 

[Chavannigans]

We were discussing this in the Extra Extra Read All About It thread when it was proposed.

Very disappointing, but on brand for the current state of the federal government.

I will remain optimistic that this can be changed as easily as it was proposed in a few years.

 

[dreamweaver]

We were discussing this in the Extra Extra Read All About It thread when it was proposed.

Very disappointing, but on brand for the current state of the federal government.

I will remain optimistic that this can be changed as easily as it was proposed in a few years.

Fingers crossed.

 

[oldgeeksguide]

To many states no longer do any emission testing. So this is what we get.

I just saw a scishow video on the connection between air pollution and Parkinson’s disease. This stuff has real consequences in our lives.

 

[dreamweaver]

I just saw a scishow video on the connection between air pollution and Parkinson’s disease. This stuff has real consequences in our lives.

Car exhaust fumes contain certain poisonous chemicals, including carbon monoxide, sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxides, formaldehyde, benzene and soot, all of which can be harmful to the human body if consistently inhaled in quantities. I am not surprised they are still finding some of these long term effects.

 

[socalscout]

California proposed this before the current administration, and CA is far from Trump country.

Also, CA has stringent emissions testing and some people in CA still roll coal.

This isn’t about left or right, it’s about the oil industry as mentioned before, and the governments reliance on tax dollars they can spend.

Look at CA. Highest $/gallon taxes, sells the second most fuel per day (33m gallons/day) in the US, and our roads are in horrible shape. Why? Because the CA government spends the money elsewhere, not because there isn’t enough money.

The average fuel tax in CA is right around $0.60 not including sales tax or federal excise tax.

33,000,000 * .6 = $19,800,000 per day

19800000 * 365 = $7,227,000,000 per year

Yes, 7.2B in fuel taxes and this state can’t fix the roads. Ask yourself why is that, because you can’t blame the current administration for what CA is doing here.

 

[LastDayScout]

California proposed this before the current administration, and CA is far from Trump country.

Also, CA has stringent emissions testing and some people in CA still roll coal.

This isn’t about left or right, it’s about the oil industry as mentioned before, and the governments reliance on tax dollars they can spend.

Look at CA. Highest $/gallon taxes, sells the second most fuel per day (33m gallons/day) in the US, and our roads are in horrible shape. Why? Because the CA government spends the money elsewhere, not because there isn’t enough money.

The average fuel tax in CA is right around $0.60 not including sales tax or federal excise tax.

33,000,000 * .6 = $19,800,000 per day

19800000 * 365 = $7,227,000,000 per year

Yes, 7.2B in fuel taxes and this state can’t fix the roads. Ask yourself why is that, because you can’t blame the current administration for what CA is doing here.

Grift and misappropriation are not exclusive to one party.

 

[socalscout]

Grift and misappropriation are not exclusive to one party.

You’re right. But CA is a one party state and they are doing everything to keep it that way.

Can’t blame a party that has no voice here.

 

[mastertroll]

We all knew the tax man would eventually figure out a way to rake in the dough on EVs...
I just didn't think it would be so soon.

Consumer Reports statement: New clean vehicle tax would be punitive and wildly out of step with what Americans pay in federal gas tax - CR Advocacy

Older Americans would be disproportionately affected, according to new CR analysis WASHINGTON, D.C.—This week members of the U.S. House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee advanced a…

advocacy.consumerreports.org

I've already been paying this for my state for years.. I am hoping the new law doesn't mean I will pay 250 plus 200 for my state...

 

[LastDayScout]

You’re right. But CA is a one party state and they are doing everything to keep it that way.

Can’t blame a party that has no voice here.

I’m saying they both suck.

 

[Mousehunter]

Well let's play with some funny numbers. My truck gets 14mpg. Assuming 10k miles per year, that is a tad over 700 gallons a year. Federal diesel tax is .244 per gallon. So my trucks federal diesel tax is $171 a year, with a State tax of $140. Now if I up that to to 15k miles - then my federal tax is $261. So we can say with my truck, break even is about 15k miles/year,

That said, it does not calculate the list of taxes I already pay on electricity... But electricity taxes don't pay for roads. Honestly, it could be more annoying. Heavy vehicle and trailer taxes are based on milrage - at least we will not be transmitting our mileage data to the goverment, yet... States were getting that with annual inspections, but I don't think the Fed's were.

 

[socalscout]

What about your registration and license tax. How much is that per year?

If you don’t think the federal government can access your vehicles digital mileage and GPS information on new model vehicles and EVs, you’ve not been paying attention.