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[bb00799]

Nvm, lol. I guess it’s Body on Frame. All the press statements I found was it was unibody. Not like it will ever change my mind on RAM trucks and the quality, they will always suck imo.

Agreed. Although at this point I am really rooting for it to succeed because Stelantis can't afford to have another brand implode.

Plus if this comes out and it raises people's interest in EREV/Range extended Hybrids in America then thats only good news for the Harvester and Scout

 

[J Alynn]

Nvm, lol. I guess it’s Body on Frame. All the press statements I found was it was unibody. Not like it will ever change my mind on RAM trucks and the quality, they will always suck imo.

Second that. Had issue with Chrysler products and even less faith with Stellantis

 

[Jrgunn5150]

I know some might be upset with Scout Harvester having a slightly lower towing capacity than full EV. But, I found the ugly truth about the RAM Charger, its unibody construction using the STLA Large Platform Chassis.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/ram-rollout-rev-ramcharger-dakota-replacement/

Ram Charger is STLA Frame.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

Agreed. Although at this point I am really rooting for it to succeed because Stelantis can't afford to have another brand implode.

Plus if this comes out and it raises people's interest in EREV/Range extended Hybrids in America then thats only good news for the Harvester and Scout

They had 5.5 billion in profit last year.

Less margin than 23, but hardly imminent doom.

 

[dreamweaver]

They had 5.5 billion in profit last year.

Less margin than 23, but hardly imminent doom.

So, is Stellantis "starting to implode"? It’s more like it’s stumbling badly—financially battered, strategically adrift, and facing a pivotal year. The company’s not dead yet; it’s rolling out new platforms and partnerships (like with China’s Leapmotor), and the tariff reprieve helps. But without a clear turnaround plan and a new CEO to execute it, the cracks could widen.

 

[THil08]

So, is Stellantis "starting to implode"? It’s more like it’s stumbling badly—financially battered, strategically adrift, and facing a pivotal year. The company’s not dead yet; it’s rolling out new platforms and partnerships (like with China’s Leapmotor), and the tariff reprieve helps. But without a clear turnaround plan and a new CEO to execute it, the cracks could widen.

I saw rumors the DS Automobiles, Chrysler, Maserati and Lancia could be getting shut down since they have the least income and they are expensive to run. I don’t know how true it is. But when Chrysler sells one Minivan thats a good year for them, since i rarely see them anymore.

 

[dreamweaver]

I saw rumors the DS Automobiles, Chrysler, Maserati and Lancia could be getting shut down since they have the least income and they are expensive to run. I don’t know how true it is. But when Chrysler sells one Minivan thats a good year for them, since i rarely see them anymore.

Maserati’s already in a dire spot; Stellantis wrote off a 1.5 billion euro investment, putting its electric future (like the MC20 Folgore) in jeopardy.

 

[THil08]

Maserati’s already in a dire spot; Stellantis wrote off a 1.5 billion euro investment, putting its electric future (like the MC20 Folgore) in jeopardy.

That not good. Ever since they joined/bought all those companies they have been in the shitter excuse my language.

 

[Badams]

I think we’ll see more brands start to go away as more people switch to ev’s it seems like most of the manufacturers are having a hard time they seem to be very hit and miss.

 

[dreamweaver]

That not good. Ever since they joined/bought all those companies they have been in the shitter excuse my language.

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I think they are up to like 14 brands, and with the leadership turmoil something has to give.

 

[THil08]

I think we’ll see more brands start to go away as more people switch to ev’s it seems like most of the manufacturers are having a hard time they seem to be very hit and miss.

It also has to do with that a lot of these legacy brands think they have the money to retool factories and make EVs when in reality it’s expensive. And they struggle to advertise it. I think the companies in the EU are going to begin to stabilize again now that the EU has reduced the C2O standards, gives them the room to grow and hopefully be able to fund their EV market sectors instead of going bankrupt.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

So, is Stellantis "starting to implode"? It’s more like it’s stumbling badly—financially battered, strategically adrift, and facing a pivotal year. The company’s not dead yet; it’s rolling out new platforms and partnerships (like with China’s Leapmotor), and the tariff reprieve helps. But without a clear turnaround plan and a new CEO to execute it, the cracks could widen.

Who could have guessed marking up the exact same models 10% each year for years, while investing all your profit into stock buybacks, wouldn't sustain record profits forever?

 

[LastDayScout]

I have daily driven EVs since 2019. So, firmly in the EV camp. But, I also still enjoy my ICE Jeeps and a BMW e30. My point is that two things at once is ok. The world fleet will have to continue to ween off fossil fuels. For some sectors that can happen faster than others. For example, I am not too excited about an electric airplane at this point. But, I am for SAF (sustainable aviation fuel). I am not seeing a bright future for full EV semi trucks…at least for over the road trucking. But, I do see diesel hybrids being a great option. I do see EVs for light vehicles and last mile delivery trucks and vans. We just have to ween off, continue pursuing better efficiency in ICE and the fuel that powers them. At the same time, EV motor, battery and charging needs to continue. There is room for both and eventually the better technology will completely take over. No one wants to go back to horses (well maybe some). But, with the advent of the automobile no one went out and just shot the horses. It took a little time and that is ok. Now, some on here won’t like this, but the emissions cheating has to stop. Rational people do not like pollution. If you are not from SC you may not know we do not have any sort of vehicle inspections. No emissions, no safety, no nothing. It’s sad and it’s dangerous. We have the Carolina squat, super loud exhaust, tires sticking out the sides by over 6”, no restrictions on lift height, no checks for all the proper body parts and equipment, no checks for bulbs or brakes. Nothing! That needs to change as well. It’s not freedom…it’s stupid.

 

[oldgeeksguide]

I saw rumors the DS Automobiles, Chrysler, Maserati and Lancia could be getting shut down since they have the least income and they are expensive to run. I don’t know how true it is. But when Chrysler sells one Minivan thats a good year for them, since i rarely see them anymore.

Since they split off dodge (and ram) there’s barely anything left of Chrysler. They stopped making sedans, their trucks went with dodge and all they have left is 2 minivans. It’s pretty sad.

 

[LastDayScout]

Since they split off dodge (and ram) there’s barely anything left of Chrysler. They stopped making sedans, their trucks went with dodge and all they have left is 2 minivans. It’s pretty sad.

Sure is. Long time Mopar fan. Not much to get excited about in a very long time.

 

[J Alynn]

I think we’ll see more brands start to go away as more people switch to ev’s it seems like most of the manufacturers are having a hard time they seem to be very hit and miss.

Yeah-hard to be an ICE company and go EV. The diehards b**tch and moan that they sold out and the EV buyers (IMO) don’t believe they can focus enough to make a quality EV. Hyundai seems to be getting it and I think if Toyota/Honda would commit they could make it work but they are so solid with hybrid I’m not sure it makes sense for the time being which seems to be their thinking too

 

[Czernobog]

I wonder if anyone from Rivian will ask him when his state will permit its residents to purchase a Rivian (or Tesla, or Scout, etc.) vehicle without having to jump through out-of-state purchase hoops?

Gov. McMaster set to talk at South by Southwest Festival

Gov. Henry McMaster will be talking all things EV, electric vehicles, at the South by Southwest Festival (SXSW) in Austin, Texas.

www.wistv.com

 

[Chuckles]

Maserati’s already in a dire spot; Stellantis wrote off a 1.5 billion euro investment, putting its electric future (like the MC20 Folgore) in jeopardy.

MC20 Folgore has already been cancelled.

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/maserati-has-cancelled-mc20-electric-supercar-because-not-enough-people-wanted-it

 

[dreamweaver]

MC20 Folgore has already been cancelled.

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/maserati-has-cancelled-mc20-electric-supercar-because-not-enough-people-wanted-it

I missed that one. But, not surprised.

 

[THil08]

Shame on Jag