Cool handel name as I am a badams as well. Ya I get it but just worry that it will be hard to please most folks that need to have a Harvester. My post is meant for the 5,500- 9,500 pounds trailer crowd that a Harvester model may not work for.
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I completely get where you are coming from and being an architectural designer I’ve suffered the same similar situations. I designed/built my own house nearly 20 years ago and put it into a parade of homes event. It’s tough to stand in your dream home and hear people criticize many things. We are in a world of 40% rules and 60% gray area design (maybe reverse that for cars) so we will never be correct no matter how great our thinking/design might be
I agree some people won’t be happy with the harvester if the tow ratings end up being 5000lbs. I’m sure scott is regretting saying that now. Personally I’m really hoping that the number goes up. But if they don’t then some people will get the bev model and do as you mentioned. Others will probably buy a gas car.
For me, I hope that the maximum tow rating for the EREV doesn't increase over 5000lbs. I need to tow, but I don't need to tow that much weight. I would rather have the EREV (and the pure EV versions) be designed as a capable/comfortable driver with medium towing capability and lower cost. I understand people that have specific requirements and need a vehicle that can tow >5,000, but I don't think this is the right vehicle for that. In my opinion, the cost increase to provide that level of towing ability isn't justified for the limited number of people that need it.
Nah, I’m the same way. I like living a spontaneous and carefree existence, but I also have a chronic illness and am accustomed to having to do some degree of pre-planning (I’m not wheelchair-bound, but stairs are a weakness… am I going to get around okay, is there air conditioning, is there water, etc). I think the kind of effort you put into road tripping with an EV might not end up being so different from the effort you put into any road trip (do you make a play list, do you bring snacks, do you bring overnight stuff, do you tell people that you’re going to be in the area and want to get coffee/get dinner/want to lay low in the spare bedroom, etc). It seems like the effort amounts to “plan route from A to B” followed by “where the chargers at?”
Lots of people here have written about how they do their road trips and it’s been really informative and helpful. Honestly, it’s relieved a lot of my concerns about range anxiety.
This is a great thread:
They seem to have taken steps to lower the cost the on the erev models. I agree with the affordability point. But I also think that by coming with such a low number they would be losing a good chunk of sales. Hopefully they will find a nice middle ground of keeping cost down and still be capable.
Seems like a great thread I haven’t had time to read it all yet.Nah, I’m the same way. I like living a spontaneous and carefree existence, but I also have a chronic illness and am accustomed to having to do some degree of pre-planning (I’m not wheelchair-bound, but stairs are a weakness… am I going to get around okay, is there air conditioning, is there water, etc). I think the kind of effort you put into road tripping with an EV might not end up being so different from the effort you put into any road trip (do you make a play list, do you bring snacks, do you bring overnight stuff, do you tell people that you’re going to be in the area and want to get coffee/get dinner/want to lay low in the spare bedroom, etc). It seems like the effort amounts to “plan route from A to B” followed by “where the chargers at?”
Lots of people here have written about how they do their road trips and it’s been really informative and helpful. Honestly, it’s relieved a lot of my concerns about range anxiety.
This is a great thread:
Being in the same world, I completely get it. I can design an individual home to make someone completely happy, but designing a spec house for the masses is a different animal and it's a numbers game on what "most" people are wanting. I suspect designing vehicles is the same way and you've got to choose your niche that you're targeting.
As to towing, I think it just needs to be competitive. I'm not sure what Scout is targeting as the competition, but the 4Runner has 6k towing, the Tahoe has ~8k towing, the Grand Cherokee is ~6k, etc. There are some like the Wrangler and Explorer with lower capabilities, but the 4Runner seems to be the most natural competition for the rugged outdoorsy vehicle that can go places, do things and be accepting of less-than-carlike manners due to the solid rear axle, body-on-frame design, etc.
Has it been stated what vehicles Scout has been benchmarking? I'd be very curious.
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I relate to this comment. My next SUV planned was a 2025/2026 4Runner, got excited about the iForce Max released this year. Only drawback to it was not being a plug-in Hybrid. I would love to go full EV, but have range anxiety (cold ski trips). Scout came in and checked all of boxes I want (reality or dream), including looking rugged awesome. The 4Runner is more aggressive looking, but the Scout has this awesome retro feel that I'm obsessed with. Currently have a 2013 Pathfinder with 5000lb towing capability, which has towed exactly 0lbs (unless you count 4 bikes on a hitch mount rack). While I want to have towing capability just in case, my requirement isn't going to be substantial (U-Haul trailer, small rental camper, etc..) and 5000 will be just fine. I too am curious as to what Scout views as benchmark vehicles.
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