Option for a Rugged/Waterproof Interior Trim

[brianlmccann]

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The nice leather and white fabric looks cool but it's not functional. We need a waterproof, rugged, rubber-lined, interior option. Think jumping into the car in a still damp wetsuit, throwing your sandy items in the back, and washing out the interior with a hose when you get home. Drain holes and an option for an adventure key would be great. Seat material even more durable than the Suburu sport trim (scratch/tear resistant, waterproof, salt resistant). We need an interior trim option for people that want to beat on the truck.

 

[pwrofgrayskull]

Agreed. With all we do with our off road/daily combo vehicle - unfortunately dust, dirt, mud, water, etc. etc. do end up making it into the interior. Whether we’re playing in the water somewhere, running an off road trail, mountain biking, or otherwise - it just happens if you’re out using the thing. We try to keep it to a minimum, but clean-up is needed after each adventure. An interior that is more rugged, durable, and stain resistant than a white Tesla interior would definitely be needed.

 

[pwrofgrayskull]

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The nice leather and white fabric looks cool but it's not functional. We need a waterproof, rugged, rubber-lined, interior option. Think jumping into the car in a still damp wetsuit, throwing your sandy items in the back, and washing out the interior with a hose when you get home. Drain holes and an option for an adventure key would be great. Seat material even more durable than the Suburu sport trim (scratch/tear resistant, waterproof, salt resistant). We need an interior trim option for people that want to beat on the truck.

*sets off to look up adventure key*……this sounds like a great idea, is anyone already doing this? Rivian I assume?

 

[brianlmccann]

*sets off to look up adventure key*……this sounds like a great idea, is anyone already doing this? Rivian I assume?

If you like this idea make sure you hit the upvote (it's next to the big zero at the top of my post).

Jaime from Scout Motors just changed the suggestion forum settings to allow votes because I asked if there was a way for us to vote on suggested features.

By "adventure key" I just meant a non-electronic key that you can take on adventures. Polestar offered this and Tesla offers a credit card key. Ford has a keycode on the pillar so you don't need to bring your key. All very useful for going to the beach and other adventures.

 

[pwrofgrayskull]

Agreed on the adventure key.

 

[ID_ENG]

What's an adventure key?

 

[brianlmccann]

What's an adventure key?

I explained it more above. It's usually like a hotel room card key but it can be any waterproof key that you can bring in the ocean and other places without destroying your fob.

 

[Lowengaard]

Rivian does a keycard, phone unlock, and a physical key. I think that should be the direction scout goes with the key

 

[oldgeeksguide]

Rivian does a keycard, phone unlock, and a physical key. I think that should be the direction scout goes with the key

And a rubberish wristband key, handy when swimming without pockets.

 

[ID_ENG]

Do'h OK forum masters, deduct 10xp from my account for not reading all the way through. I saw it mentioned a couple times then when straight to the bottom.

Hmm, OK I get the concept now. Here's my take on it.
I think Ford's solution is hideous. I'd pay to not have it, or seriously not buy the car.
I'd like to avoid having extra things to remember. So I'd love to see a way to register and deregister anything with an NFC.
Talking about all modern phones, Apple watches, Garmin watches, etc.

Maybe even just to unlock the car. Not necessarily start it. Going for a hike or swimming. Lock your car with your keys in it. Unlock it with your watch when you come back.... Just don't let it die on you.

 

[Chaparral]

I’m a little worried that the interior design is not going to be easy enough to clean.

For example, the space behind the touchscreen is going to collect dust and be very difficult to clean. I get it, that open space makes the interior feel light. But in real world use it might make the interior feel dirty.

Off-roading means dust and mud and sometimes a bit of road building. The light colored surface behind the grab bar is going to get dirty. They said it glows like a fireplace at night, which I like, but they really need to prioritize being easy to clean. Hopefully it is.

Rubber instead of carpet is a must have option

 

[ID_ENG]

I’m a little worried that the interior design is not going to be easy enough to clean.

For example, the space behind the touchscreen is going to collect dust and be very difficult to clean. I get it, that open space makes the interior feel light. But in real world use it might make the interior feel dirty.

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Off-roading means dust and mud and sometimes a bit of road building. The light colored surface behind the grab bar is going to get dirty. They said it glows like a fireplace at night, which I like, but they really need to prioritize being easy to clean. Hopefully it is.

Rubber instead of carpet is a must have option

Good catch and good point.

Hear me out SM team, lol. What if the screen was detachable. Connected with strong magnets and some kind of pogo pin connector for the data link.

Disconnecting will enable thorough cleaning, and maybe while parked you can take it off and handle it better for manipulating map apps, etc.

 

[brianlmccann]

I’m a little worried that the interior design is not going to be easy enough to clean.

For example, the space behind the touchscreen is going to collect dust and be very difficult to clean. I get it, that open space makes the interior feel light. But in real world use it might make the interior feel dirty.

View attachment 3599

Off-roading means dust and mud and sometimes a bit of road building. The light colored surface behind the grab bar is going to get dirty. They said it glows like a fireplace at night, which I like, but they really need to prioritize being easy to clean. Hopefully it is.

Rubber instead of carpet is a must have option

This is why I made the suggestion. I'm not saying it needs to be submersible but an all black waterproof option would be great. Some rubber/plastic trim to cover all the crevices and allow you to spray out the interior would be really cool. The second you touch that light fabric trim with some mud it's all over.

 

[MDNTEXPRS]

Agree on a more durable/waterproof trim and fabric option but I do not see the need for an added adventure key. As we are still several years out and with all the tech advances ongoing presently, how many different ways will we need to access a vehicle? How many will actually use it?

 

[brianlmccann]

Agree on a more durable/waterproof trim and fabric option but I do not see the need for an added adventure key. As we are still several years out and with all the tech advances ongoing presently, how many different ways will we need to access a vehicle? How many will actually use it?

1. I'm thinking more than just durable fabric. It would be cool if they went super over the top and made it a premium option. I'm talking kevlar dash or glove compartment and X-Pac sailcloth for any fabric areas. Black X-Pac looks really technical and sleek.

2. Not sure what you mean. Adventure key would be for any time you can't bring your car fob or a phone. It's just a card you can slip into a swimsuit or wetsuit.

 

[R1TVT]

Maybe even just to unlock the car. Not necessarily start it. Going for a hike or swimming. Lock your car with your keys in it. Unlock it with your watch when you come back.... Just don't let it die on you.

Keep in mind that with an EV, if you can get inside it with some form of key (FOB, Card, Phone, Wristband, Watch), then you can also start it. You have essentially already "authenticated" and associated yourself to the vehicle with that credential for access.

Hear me out SM team, lol. What if the screen was detachable. Connected with strong magnets and some kind of pogo pin connector for the data link.

Disconnecting will enable thorough cleaning, and maybe while parked you can take it off and handle it better for manipulating map apps, etc.

To me, the "screen" you take with you is your phone, and this is why we have AppleCarPlay and Android Auto (as examples) + nobody is leaving their phone behind unless they go surfing for example... The phone goes with you everywhere, the truck doesn't, and since the phone is the thing that holds everything already, I would view the infotainment screen as a place to extend that (and obviously provide Scout-specific native functions), but just my 02 cents.

 

[ID_ENG]

Keep in mind that with an EV, if you can get inside it with some form of key (FOB, Card, Phone, Wristband, Watch), then you can also start it. You have essentially already "authenticated" and associated yourself to the vehicle with that credential for access.

To me, the "screen" you take with you is your phone, and this is why we have AppleCarPlay and Android Auto (as examples) + nobody is leaving their phone behind unless they go surfing for example... The phone goes with you everywhere, the truck doesn't, and since the phone is the thing that holds everything already, I would view the infotainment screen as a place to extend that (and obviously provide Scout-specific native functions), but just my 02 cents.

That's assuming that we are stuck with existing work flows.
There's a difference between Authentication and Authorization. Using standard RBAC policies, you could theoretically configure any compatible radio device that provides a unique ID. To be allowed to authenticate and Authorized to unlock the door, but not start the vehicle.
And the fobs provided by the manufactuer being authorized to unlock and start.
I would prefer this to keep the threat vector down on how easy it is to take my vehicle.
Don't need someone to walk by me with a flip zero (or whatever it's called) scan the RFID on my watch in two seconds from standing by me in line. And then able to simply unlock and start my vehicle at any point in time there after.

As for the screen to phone comparison. I see where you're going with it. But I'd argue that mobile screen is not equal to phone. There are clear use cases and usability between a phone and tablet even. I'd argue that the detachable media center is akin to a tablet.

But the whole reason for that in the first place was to work around cleaning behind it because with the current design there WILL be dirt and grime built up behind it.
Being able to hold it in your lap while plotting way points or whatever was just an extra benefit.

 

[MountainDad]

What's an adventure key?

Thread 'Adventure Key - NFC wristband' https://scoutmotors.community.forum/threads/adventure-key-nfc-wristband.1158/

 

[MountainDad]

Agree on a more durable/waterproof trim and fabric option but I do not see the need for an added adventure key. As we are still several years out and with all the tech advances ongoing presently, how many different ways will we need to access a vehicle? How many will actually use it?

I use mine in my Land Rover all the time. It's NFC enabled, totally passive, and it's a rubber wristband the size of a Fitbit. You can bash it on a rock, drown it for days, and there's no battery to run down or screen to crack - and unless you lose your arm, you won't ever lose it.

Thread 'Adventure Key - NFC wristband' https://scoutmotors.community.forum/threads/adventure-key-nfc-wristband.1158/

 

[MountainDad]

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The nice leather and white fabric looks cool but it's not functional. We need a waterproof, rugged, rubber-lined, interior option. Think jumping into the car in a still damp wetsuit, throwing your sandy items in the back, and washing out the interior with a hose when you get home. Drain holes and an option for an adventure key would be great. Seat material even more durable than the Suburu sport trim (scratch/tear resistant, waterproof, salt resistant). We need an interior trim option for people that want to beat on the truck.

How about an option for waterproof seat covers and the usual high-quality WeatherTech Level floor protection?

To have a fully waterproof interior, you have to design all of the electronics to IP64 standards or better.

Frankly, the Windsor leather interior in my Land Rover is virtually indestructible. It's seemingly elephant-hide thick, and cleans up very easily. Wipe it down with some Maguire's leather protector once a quarter and it shines up, smells nice, and stays supple.

This is actually why leather was chosen in the first place. Wealthy people had wool textile seats, working vehicles had leather.

Neoprene and rubber aren't durable - they crack in heat and sun, absorb dirt and don't release stains. So having some covers you can slip on when you want to go surfing or noodling in muddy backwaters or whatever would be much better.