What's the timeline (w/ charging and fill-ups) for a 720 mile road trip (no towing) with and without the harvester?

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Never owned an EV. Since 2015 I have been doing a NY to NC run of just over 700 miles a few times a year in various vehicles, from an F-250 Superduty (w/ 50 gal rank) to a Kia Niro. Covering that distance with a standard EV was just not a bullet I was willing to bite. I am curious which option (w/ or w/o the harvester) will provide a quicker journey of the same distance.
 
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Never owned an EV. Since 2015 I have been doing a NY to NC run of just over 700 miles a few times a year in various vehicles, from an F-250 Superduty (w/ 50 gal rank) to a Kia Niro. Covering that distance with a standard EV was just not a bullet I was willing to bite. I am curious which option (w/ or w/o the harvester) will provide a quicker journey of the same distance.
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A better route planner.com can run scenarios based on what car you drive. Scout is not in there yet, but it will give you a rough estimate of charging stops and times, I’m sure scout will eventually make it up there once more info is released
I am glad they will be using Rivians software because it has a reputation for being pretty accurate with miles until empty and how much charge you'll have left when you reach the next destination.
 
The million dollar question. So many variables. We won't know the answer to this until we have all the spec's and can do a side-by-side. Also depends on how you charge or how you charge and fill up, which wheels and tires, weather/temp, accesories mounted to vehicle, weight of the vehicle, final coefficient of drag of the vehicle, final specs on batteries and harvester, etc... Note*** It is much faster to make a couple of quick charging stops in the fastest part of the charging curve (as opposed to running the battery all the way down and charging all the way up). That is not efficient on a road trip of 700 miles (I make a 700 mile trip frequently in a R1T in summer months up and down i-95 for my kids Lacrosse tournaments). Also, the infrastructure is good along i-95 so you will likely have plenty of charging options. Also, the charging speeds will likely increase on the vehicle, and it will have 800V architecture. Also, the chargers themselves may be slightly better by then, etc. etc.
 
If we knew how the Harvester works (i.e., is this a plug-in hybrid or truly a range extender), we could answer a bit better. But we don't, despite all the very strong assertions in the forum by people who pretend to know. When people have played with its limits is when we'll know.

@R1TVT is right. There are a lot of variables.

Don't forget to take into account the overhead of stopping--how much time does it take to get off the freeway, get to the station, and begin refueling (whatever the fuel), and the same for getting back onto the freeway.

We drive until our needs tell us to stop, which is typically about 2.5-3 hours. That's usually 180 to 220 miles. We stop for lunch, bio break, whatever. From decades of road tripping with gassy vehicles, hybrids, and now EVs, our stops have a median length of 25 minutes, and it's usually because we take 25 minutes to do our things (the truck is past our charge target by the time we get back). For 700 miles / 220 miles, I get a bit more than 3 legs. We would eat lunch after leg one or two, bio break after the other leg, probably eat dinner after leg 3. Total time for us in any vehicle we drive looks to be about 9.5 hours of driving and 75-90 minutes of stops for eating and bio breaks. The electric doesn't add much time for that short of a road trip--for us and our driving style.

Assuming the Harvester is a range extender, it could add 7-10 minutes to each stop to make sure it's filled. Until I understood how it works for my driving patterns, I would never leave a stop without ensuring it was full.

Assuming the battery is 800V, it'll take less time to charge when you have a 350+ kW charger available.