Spare Tire

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Please make the spare tire standard. Reps shared that it wouldn't be today in Cola. They even challenged the fact that other main competitors don't offer them i.e. the Bronco (inaccurate info btw). But an upcharge for a spare tire on a purpose-built off-road vehicle is an interesting choice. While I understand the Rivian doesn't offer one *edit as standard equipment *, the Scout is in a whole other category.
 
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I don't know what this is, what does "in Cola" mean?

Can you provide additional details? When was this said, and in what context? Do you know which representatives said this? What specifically did they say? Were they talking about a specific model (like the Harvester) or just in general?

Cola = Columbia
It was stated by a Scout Rep.
They specifically said that a spare tire would not be standard equipment, and that the ones that did not opt for the optional spare on the back hatch, would get an inflator kit.
 
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Cola = Columbia
It was stated by a Scout Rep.
They specifically said that a spare tire would not be standard equipment, and that the ones that did not opt for the optional spare on the back hatch, would get an inflator kit.
Well that stinks. I would like a spare on my Traveller but can't do the tire carrier as then it won't fit in my garage. Ideally they could put a tire (even if it's a space saver) between the rear axle and bumper - my 07 Grand Cherokee is set up like this (with a full size wheel though it's not a huge offroad wheel/tire) and it works great. I would also be completely fine with a space saver under the cargo floor. I rarely haul things and if I did get a flat with stuff in there I would be happy to unload the back vs paying for and waiting on a tow truck.
 
Well that stinks. I would like a spare on my Traveller but can't do the tire carrier as then it won't fit in my garage. Ideally they could put a tire (even if it's a space saver) between the rear axle and bumper - my 07 Grand Cherokee is set up like this (with a full size wheel though it's not a huge offroad wheel/tire) and it works great. I would also be completely fine with a space saver under the cargo floor. I rarely haul things and if I did get a flat with stuff in there I would be happy to unload the back vs paying for and waiting on a tow truck.
I’d love to know if @Jamie@ScoutMotors has any insight on this. Wouldn’t be the first time a rep has misspoke. Carrier was always going to be an option but not getting a real spare is news but would be nice to here it from a rep higher up and not a rep at an event where often times things are misspoken.
 
I thought so too! But at the Columbia event, they stated differently. We know we can’t take anything they have said as concrete because so much is still being finalized.
From @Jamie@ScoutMotors back in January. Additionally I asked at the event and was told that no, 37s would not be offered from factory.

 
From @Jamie@ScoutMotors back in January. Additionally I asked at the event and was told that no, 37s would not be offered from factory.

Good to know. So this “Extreme Off Road package” she mentioned ain’t real?
 
They had to redesign and recalibrate most of the F-150 factory to fit 37s. It took them 15 months.

Either Scout is building it from the get-go to accommodate 37s which means way more cost than they should expend, or they will some day have to spend a pretty penny on a factory upgrade for an item that would sell to a few hundred potential customers.

Factory 37s is such a niche kitout that it would annoy me to no end if they offer 37s from the factory. It would mean distribution of those capital costs to all vehicles sold and my 31s/33s would cost me way more than they should.
 
Based on the capability of the vehicle I don’t see why they wouldn’t have an “extreme off road package”, but I would suspect it’s not going to come with 37s. An extreme package could still be extreme with 35s.
It’s a massive tire, that’s for sure. I don’t see how it be practical outside the off road enthusiast crowd.
They had to redesign and recalibrate most of the F-150 factory to fit 37s. It took them 15 months.

Either Scout is building it from the get-go to accommodate 37s which means way more cost than they should expend, or they will some day have to spend a pretty penny on a factory upgrade for an item that would sell to a few hundred potential customers.

Factory 37s is such a niche kitout that it would annoy me to no end if they offer 37s from the factory. It would mean distribution of those capital costs to all vehicles sold and my 31s/33s would cost me way more than they should.
Its not serious enough to annoy me. I don’t care what size tires anyone opts for. It appears it was designed to accommodate them from the jump, as they have already stated it can have 37s.

I just wish they’d reconsider a standard spare.
 
It’s a massive tire, that’s for sure. I don’t see how it be practical outside the off road enthusiast crowd.

Its not serious enough to annoy me. I don’t care what size tires anyone opts for. It appears it was designed to accommodate them from the jump, as they have already stated it can have 37s.

It’s not designed for it—they stated they haven’t done the engineering to support 37s from the factory. It might be able to accommodate the size, but there’s much, much more to adding such large tires than just fitting under the wheel well. If someone wants to add aftermarket 37s, they take on the risks that the factory parts aren’t strong enough to handle the increased stresses.

I just wish they’d reconsider a standard spare.

Why?
You have to pay either way.
This way the people who don’t need a spare don’t have to buy it.
And those who don’t want the factory spare can buy their own from a 3rd party.
It annoys me when there’s no a place to safely store a spare, but it’s not a big deal to me when there isn’t a spare in that space when the vehicle is delivered.
 
It’s not designed for it—they stated they haven’t done the engineering to support 37s from the factory. It might be able to accommodate the size, but there’s much, much more to adding such large tires than just fitting under the wheel well. If someone wants to add aftermarket 37s, they take on the risks that the factory parts aren’t strong enough to handle the increased stresses.



Why?
You have to pay either way.
This way the people who don’t need a spare don’t have to buy it.
And those who don’t want the factory spare can buy their own from a 3rd party.
It annoys me when there’s no a place to safely store a spare, but it’s not a big deal to me when there isn’t a spare in that space when the vehicle is delivered.
There are plenty of folks who do. Myself included. I travel a lot in rural areas. I have had the saga and frustration of waiting in a tow to take my X5 2 hours away because no one local had the tire in stock.

And why go through the haggle of buying one third party, when they have time to do it right from the beginning? To me it’s common sense.

It’s a pain, unnecessary, and expensive.

To each their own.
 
I travel a lot in rural areas too. Much farther from the nearest tow truck than most people in the country. I always carry a spare, sometimes two spares, as well as a patch/plug kit, an air compressor, and a floor jack. But I don’t think someone else should have to own a spare tire they’re never going to use just because I want a spare.

It’s unnecessarily expensive for someone who never needs it. And it’s a waste of materials. It’s easy enough to purchase a spare. It’s not so easy to get your money back for a spare you were forced to purchase.
 
Based on the capability of the vehicle I don’t see why they wouldn’t have an “extreme off road package”, but I would suspect it’s not going to come with 37s. An extreme package could still be extreme with 35s.
I think the take away here is not all reps have everything down and there may be inaccurate statements made. But at least what we learn from the SM team on this forum is generally 99.555556% accurate.
 
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I travel a lot in rural areas too. Much farther from the nearest tow truck than most people in the country. I always carry a spare, sometimes two spares, as well as a patch/plug kit, an air compressor, and a floor jack. But I don’t think someone else should have to own a spare tire they’re never going to use just because I want a spare.

It’s unnecessarily expensive for someone who never needs it. And it’s a waste of materials. It’s easy enough to purchase a spare. It’s not so easy to get your money back for a spare you were forced to purchase.
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