Scout Concepts are coming home April 18-20, 2026
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Big thanks to @nolen for catching so many details I missed, not only in photos but in person. There was so much to observe and digest.
Controlling that much rear unsprung weight is going to a challenge regardless. Assuming a ~300lb-350lb genset on the Harvester, I don't know that the sprung weight will be too different than the EV model, but with that weight in radically different locations, I expect the stability control and such will need to be programmed very differently. The Harvester Traveler might be a handful without electronic nannies on gravel roads with a lot of unsprung weight and so much weight hanging off the rear. Hopefully she's fun to drift without snap oversteer!
Unrelated, but there appears to be an empty tray or space between the rear axle and Harvester. With the gas tank between the rear axle and the battery, I'm curious what's going in this space. Inverter/battery control? Cooling/radiator?
Did anyone capture all of the training station signs like this one? I really wished I had those to look at now. This one is a zoomed in clip and unreadable. @nolen had posted earlier about the learning exercise here. If I recall right, the simulated liquid paint solution was a mixture of water and glycerin and maybe some other stuff. I thought these signs may describe the training process details.
Most of the weight we see here will be sprung. I think you understand this, but just so other readers get it too: The frame and everything directly bolted to the frame (including the body, etc) is sprung weight. It’s the struts, solid axles, wheels, tires, etc. that are unsprung. Unsprung weight contributes to ride harshness, difficulty in controlling the vehicle, and etc. Usually sprung weight isn’t a major contributor to those kinds of issues, but with the Harvester genset aft of the rear axle, this adds a lot of extra weight outside of the usual center of gravity, so the stability control software will need to be specially programmed to manage that extra weight. Think of the tail wagging the dog kind of analogy.
I agree, with the radically different weight distribution, it definitely will require different traction/stability control algorithms. The “unsafe at any speed” report from decades ago was about a scenario similar to this (rear drive with most of the weight in the rear). The Scouts will be benefitting from decades of science and engineering improvements.
I saw that too. I keep trying to rotate the 3D model to get a better view.
My guess is that it’s where the converter/inverter will sit.
Also notice the size of the battery doesn’t fully fit into the frame. I wonder if Scout will offer the BEV with the smaller battery as a lower-cost option. If so, is that the “less than $60k” purchase option and the larger battery will boost the BEV starting price up to $70k or so?
I'm mostly concerned with the weight of the motor, gears, etc integrated into the solid rear axle. A Ford 9"/Dana 60 isn't light by any means, and motors have come a long way in recent years, so hopefully I'll be surprised.
This one is easy: 43 minutes(using the timestamps on some of my photos)
There were about 8 demonstration stations and each about 5 minutes long (OK someone is doing the math already and that is only 40 minutes...but we did have travel time between stations and some wait periods between)
Not the best photos, but it may give some idea of the tour.
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Typically each station would have employees demonstrating the learning activities.
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Ahhh PLCs, now you’re talking my language!
Looks Beefy that's a real SUV. not this monocoque/unibodies.
If I remember correctly that booth there is the driving simulator and they recorded the sound of driving around their track and made notes of all the sounds they would expect the tech to hear when doing the test drive and they’re scored on how many are identified
Hopefully they don't wrap it in a tinfoil body that gets dented by a squirrel farting nearby.
It’s all overwhelming and on top of the vehicles you guys had the whole tour to manage as well
This is the way my husband described it watching me at Nats. “You were like a ball in a pinball machine bouncing all over the place, you couldn’t decide where to go first.”
With all the batteries they're going to have to find a way to get weight down, I would certainly expect aluminum panels, but maybe we can get steel quarters to protect us from squirrel farts
The American Axle and Manufacturing (now Dauch) claim is that their ebeam solid axle is 25% less massive than whatever they consider the competition…
I don’t know what that means.
Any chance you've got a link? I haven't seen that and can't find it in relation to their beam axle.
Their website is a disaster.
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This station had a demonstration of a working robotic arm. I didn't capture a photo of that because at a distance we were trying to determine if the PLCs were Siemens. So many distractions...
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