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Chaparral

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My 10 Favorite Things

1) the Harvester - give me a smaller battery and the peace of mind and extra utility of a gas generator I'll really need a few times a year.
2) the tie-down anchors on the hood
3) the frunk slide out seat that that reveals a storage compartment below
4) real leather
5) slide out laptop tray for passenger
6) spare tire carrier - swings out to allow tail gate
7) 35s - with room to go bigger!
8) Solid rear axle and mechanical differentials
9) buttons!
10) External styling - just perfect!

What 10 things are you most excited about?
 
I am pretty aligned with your thought @Chaparral.

1. Electric drivetrain (torque, power, efficiency) but also a gas range extender for longer trips (especially offroading/camping trips where charging isn't always feasible.
2. locking front and rear differentials
3. sway bar disconects
4. 35's from the factory + design that looks like bigger will be feasible.
5. not *sure* of this but it seems like a suspension that's not so overly complicated like the Rivian where you could actually modify to lift, upgrade, etc. if desired.
6. buttons + touch screen
7. frunk (extra storage)
8. truck size - not too big, not too small.. similar to my current gladiator which is ideal.
9. styling
10. mixture of tech + capability is exactly what I want
 
1. Harvester range extender big one for me, I just road tripped a rental Silverado ev from hertz and public fast charging is expensive!
2. Solid rear axle
3. Mechanical lockers
4. BENCH SEAT!
5. 35s from the factory
6. Spare tire on the back
7. PHYSICAL BUTTONS!!!!

to be fully determined later
possibly
8. Upgradable bumpers
9. Hopefully an easily tapped into electrical system for lights and winch
10. Body on frame allows for easier install of aftermarket suspension/lifts
 
1) Exterior- looks like a modern Scout, its perfect
2) Interior - (Traveler) - love the interior, hope the Terra has the integrated center console option)
3) Gas Extender - this is why the Cybertruck doesn't work for me. My hunting trips are 250 miles with no chargers on the route, not including using my truck for power overnight. With the extender, makes perfect sense
4) Power - electric vs. gas doesn't matter to me. I want power. I love the TRX because its loud and powerful. This doesn't have the v8 sound, but it has a ton of power
5) Body on frame & mechanical diff's.
6) 35's my favorite tire size. Love it
7) Physical buttons
8) Size - its tall, its bed size is good (my tacoma fits my woodworking and hunting needs, but wish it was bigger
9) Heritage - I've never owned a Scout, but always loved them and love the brand
10) 80% capability of work on it yourself.

adding one more - 11) Frunk is so convenient. I hate putting groceries in a bed that roll everywhere. I've busted milks open more than once
 
1. Harvester range extender
2. 35” tires from factory
3. Interior a la carte colors and material selections
4. Bench seat option
5. Frunk storage and drop tailgate on Traveler
6. Rear swing gate/ clam style hi/lo opening on Traveler
7. Modern+ but not a way futuristic Jetsons look
8. Dashboard vintage/modern physical components
9. BOF
10. Lockers/ sway bar disco
 
Well, I guess that so far they have hit all my must haves.

Size - I wanted something at least the size of a Wrangler Unlimited or Bronco
Height - I wanted something that looked like an offroad vehicle. Would have preferred 1 more inch - middle of axles higher than running boards.
Range - I wanted something that could realistically get 300 miles.
Towing capacity - wanted at least 3500, 5k would have not added much utility - but 7k covers every one of my bumper pull trailers other than my RV.

That said, I still have a list of must haves that have not been mentioned.
 
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It took me a few days to figure this out - but honestly it might be my favorite thing about the Scout. It does not scream EV. Scout did not focus on making it look EV different. It looks beautiful, but in a traditional way. When I look at it, I don't see EV written all over the design. Car companies keep fighting to have the next great NEW look - and 9 times out of 10 they look worse than what came before them. EV companies have traditionally been even worse at that. Simply put. The Scout looks beautiful and does not scream I am a future vehicle, a EV... It is easy to compare the Scout to a Rivian - and while they do share a bit in common - the Scout looks MUCH nicer because it does not scream EV, EV, EV.
 
I'm intentionally using an un-ordered list, as I don't think I could stack rank them atm.

  • Frunk
    • Especially for the Terra, as by default you usually don't have a weather covered storage area. But honestly, also for the Traveler. I'd use the heck out of it, particularly when I mountain bike (I'm in the PNW, all my riding gear is sopping wet/muddy after a ride, and the bike rack on the back makes access into the trunk area hard, which means it all usually goes inside the cab)
  • Bench seat
    • The ability to carry 6 is huge. Some 3 row vehicles only have 6 seats in some configurations, and they are much larger (Mazda CX90 is 6 passenger in some trims, as is the Kia EV9, and Kia Sorrento)
  • Harvester
    • 150 miles of range covers literally 95-99% of my yearly driving needs, but still lets me do my ~900 miles in one day drive to go visit family in the summer without needing to stop for long and charge. I get to have my cake, and eat it too so to speak.
    • Lets it be used as a generator for the house during a power outage (PLEASE add the ability for the Traveler to output 240v :D). And keeping fuel in the vehicle is wayyy better than having to deal with storing cans of fuel/rotating it for a generator, etc. Plus quieter, and secure :).
  • Buttons
    • I don't mind touchscreens. But some things need non-context sensitive inputs, so I can reach for them and adjust them without taking my eyes off the road.
  • Carplay
    • Big miss by Rivian IMO. Its not so much that the software is better/worse. Its that I KNOW my phone will be up to date and have a data plan in 5-10 years. But the car? I'm less sure. Plus, I don't want to pay for data on the car, when I already have it on the phone.
  • Designed to be easily maintained
    • Shade tree mechanic here. I love when something is clearly designed to be fixed. On some cars simply replacing an accessory drive belt involves removing the FRONT BUMPER!?!? (Audi...). So when you see something designed to make it easier to upkeep, thats great imo.
  • Lockers
    • My offroading isn't as severe as it has been in the past. And honestly, the scout is more capable than I "need" right now. But I love how a mechanical rear locker is reportedly standard. That will go a LONG way towards giving them bonafide capability.
  • Swaybar disconnect
    • Same as above.
  • The width
    • 3 adults across the back of the Traveler should be pretty comfortable. There are not many vehicles in this length, that are this wide. Which means it should be a lot more comfortable than many vehicles of similar length, and makes it pretty unique (assuming most of the width is retained on the interior, and the doors aren't 1ft thick :P).
 
In no particular order:

1) Clean design
2) Suspension seems conducive (double wishbone, etc.) to aftermarket upgrades and the solid rear could be a good thing depending how it's executed.
3) Harvester option
4) 10K tow rating along w/ 1000lb ft torq
5) Lockers, sway bar disconnect, and 35's (even if the 20's will probably be the first swap- unless they wind-up w/ 17's as an option at release)
6) 240V on the Terra
7) Surprisingly, the bench seat
8) Price, w/ customization from the factory & direct customer service along with 80% self-serviceability
9) Having a frunk on a truck for enclosed storage that doesn't take away from cab space (for 12v cooler, outdoor gear etc.)
10) Size. I know some were surprised by the + dimensions, but they were actually a selling point for me.

My parents drove from Maine to live in the Alaskan bush in the late 70's in a Scout. For nostalgic reasons I was intrigued when the Scout announcement came out years ago- but now I'm more excited for practical reasons.

The timing will be perfect for me when it's released, as I will need both a commuter, a capable tow vehicle (all my travel trailer trips are relatively close- under 300 miles), and an offroad capable machine as my faithful 2004 Titan gets passed to my son (not a good commuter BTW at 9 MPG lol, so I also have a Camry that offers no utility other than commuting).

Before the release I figured I would be focused on the SUV, but now I'm sold on the Terra because it checks more boxes for my lifestyle. It really will be a "eight days a week" truck for me to haul surfboards and mountain bikes almost daily, commute to work M-F (w/ charging stations at work), tow my travel trailer either boondocking or glamping, and to head off-grid for some back-country adventures.
 
1) Mid Sized pickup truck
2) EV in a mid sized pickup truck
3) Range Extender in a Mid Sized, EV pickup truck
4) A bit boxy is great. Easier for me to get into.
5) Bench seats as an option-incidentally, I'm a man of some size, and buckets in most vehicles are just not wide enough.. If they add a fold down center, I hope it isn't so wide so as to defeat the advantage of a bench seat for me.
6) Not a favorite thing, but I hope they make a less expensive version that has smaller tires. I don't want to need a ladder to get into this thing. A mid sized, light duty pickup is all I want. I don't need off road capability as a primary focus. Some ground clearance, some capability in snow and mud, and light towing is perfect.
7) Connection to IHC is great. I'm a Farmall man to the core. Nearly bought one of the originals, so resemblance to the 1980s version is super.
8) Technology with analog. Screen with buttons is super. I hope they have CarPlay. That's a deal breaker if they don't.
9) Technology in general. I hope this has adaptive cruise, auto dimming lights, and rain sensing wipers. These are evolutionary upgrades for many old technologies in current vehicles, but are something I have come to rely on.
10) As I understand it, it will have Tesla style cable ends. Adapting the new standard is good.
 
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It took me a few days to figure this out - but honestly it might be my favorite thing about the Scout. It does not scream EV. Scout did not focus on making it look EV different. It looks beautiful, but in a traditional way. When I look at it, I don't see EV written all over the design. Car companies keep fighting to have the next great NEW look - and 9 times out of 10 they look worse than what came before them. EV companies have traditionally been even worse at that. Simply put. The Scout looks beautiful and does not scream I am a future vehicle, a EV... It is easy to compare the Scout to a Rivian - and while they do share a bit in common - the Scout looks MUCH nicer because it does not scream EV, EV, EV.
Well said.
 
I've had some time to think, watch a lot of the video walkarounds and put a list together.
I think my first reaction I posted somewhere in here was a little harsh. I had a vehicle in my head that I wanted - a fully open roof EV 4x4 to drive around town as a fun, reliable vehicle to replace my '78 Scout and be comfortable taking road trips with if I'm going somewhere a 4x4 would be useful. Basically, an electric Bronco that looked like a Scout (EREV a huge bonus!)
I understand the business case for not making that (at least not yet). The Traveler will sell soooo much better than what I wanted. It will be so much more useful for so many more people. It's like a regular mid-size SUV turned up to 11. I will get this to replace my Cadillac ELR (which I love) that I've had for over 10 years and keep my IH Scout. The more I look at it, the more I like it for what it is, a 7 day a week (or 8) vehicle instead of the 2 day a week vehicle I had in my head. Here's what I like best:

1) Exterior design - it looks like a modernized Scout II = homerun. Minimal use of black plastic trim is a big win for me. I'd still like a different front mask (more 1978, less 1980) but it's growing on me. I think the new Land Cruiser looks better with the round lights vs the rectangle too. The illuminated Scout logos are a cool touch. I like the original Script Scout logo better than the Scout II version.

2) Harvester option - this is what makes it such a versatile option that can replace more than just my around town vehicle. I know I could *probably* make a pure EV work but for everyone who says Level 3 is easy to find, have you ever driven from San Antonio to Big Bend, or San Antonio to Moab? There is a whole lot of nothin' out here in the West, but there are gas stations.

3) Interior Design - Wow! Both concepts look awesome and deserves its own top 10. The materials, colors, patterns (plaid!), switchgear, layout - all of it exceeds all expectations. I LOVE the wood in the Terra, it better be available in the Traveler. I like the thick, not-round wheel, the wet compass, the displays. I especially like the overall lightness/airiness. The light colors (especially the tans/browns) are so much better than a black interior. Black is dark (duh), depressing and hot. The bench seat is interesting. I'd rather have a tiny, removeable 3rd row to use in a pinch for 7 but I will consider the bench option if it folds down with storage like an armrest when not in use.

4) No fender flares - The wheels fit (even 35s!) without ugly black plastic flares (looking at you Jeep and Bronco). Never understood why a base version vehicle would come with fender flares, did the design team not talk to the suspension team?

5) Cabana Top - OK so it's less than a removeable or convertible top but it's way more open than most sunroofs. Since modern vehicles have to have the giant roll cages, it's really only slightly less open than a Bronco with the front panels off and rear cap still on and far more liveable on a daily basis.

6) V2L/V2H (?) - Multiple built in 110v plugs are great. I hope the 220v is available on the Traveler (with Harvester), it wasn't clear to me. The ability to use an EV/EREV as an emergency generator is a huge bonus.

7) Frunk - Primo secure storage space. Love having a large lockable space hidden from prying eyes. Neat slide out seat and built in cupholders (and plugs!)

8) 7000# Tow rating - Twice as much as a Bronco. With this I could put my '78 Scout on a trailer to take to things like Nationals.

9) Bumpers - They appear to be steel and I like how they are separated from the body.

10) Off-road stuff - ground clearance, lockers, swaybar disco - nice. Looks like on-board air in the frunk too.
 
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What 10 things are you most excited about?.
  1. Callbacks to Scout II design in Traveler windows and instrument panels
  2. Clean design lines overall: doesn’t look like a Transformer
  3. Estimated range relative to size exceeded my expectations
  4. The Harvester was a neat surprise
  5. I love the instrument panel’s clean lines and retrofuture vibe
  6. That tray table: what an understated and incredibly helpful feature, maybe no more spilling food when I stop to get a bite
  7. The molded plaid details! Love them on the pedals, how clever
  8. The cabana roof seems really cool: I can’t wait to see it in person!
  9. Those textiles
  10. Those panels meant for stashing gear to make them readily accessible: I love vertical organization. ?
  11. Bonus: the thought of welcoming an old friend home to take my father’s ashes to Maine (his favorite place to go canoeing).
 
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I've had some time to think, watch a lot of the video walkarounds and put a list together.
I think my first reaction I posted somewhere in here was a little harsh. I had a vehicle in my head that I wanted - a fully open roof EV 4x4 to drive around town as a fun, reliable vehicle to replace my '78 Scout and be comfortable taking road trips with if I'm going somewhere a 4x4 would be useful. Basically, an electric Bronco that looked like a Scout (EREV a huge bonus!)
I understand the business case for not making that (at least not yet). The Traveler will sell soooo much better than what I wanted. It will be so much more useful for so many more people. It's like a regular mid-size SUV turned up to 11. I will get this to replace my Cadillac ELR (which I love) that I've had for over 10 years and keep my IH Scout. The more I look at it, the more I like it for what it is, a 7 day a week (or 8) vehicle instead of the 2 day a week vehicle I had in my head. Here's what I like best:

1) Exterior design - it looks like a modernized Scout II = homerun. Minimal use of black plastic trim is a big win for me. I'd still like a different front mask (more 1978, less 1980) but it's growing on me. I think the new Land Cruiser looks better with the round lights vs the rectangle too. The illuminated Scout logos are a cool touch. I like the original Script Scout logo better than the Scout II version.

2) Harvester option - this is what makes it such a versatile option that can replace more than just my around town vehicle. I know I could *probably* make a pure EV work but for everyone who says Level 3 is easy to find, have you ever driven from San Antonio to Big Bend, or San Antonio to Moab? There is a whole lot of nothin' out here in the West, but there are gas stations.

3) Interior Design - Wow! Both concepts look awesome and deserves its own top 10. The materials, colors, patterns (plaid!), switchgear, layout - all of it exceeds all expectations. I LOVE the wood in the Terra, it better be available in the Traveler. I like the thick, not-round wheel, the wet compass, the displays. I especially like the overall lightness/airiness. The light colors (especially the tans/browns) are so much better than a black interior. Black is dark (duh), depressing and hot. The bench seat is interesting. I'd rather have a tiny, removeable 3rd row to use in a pinch for 7 but I will consider the bench option if it folds down with storage like an armrest when not in use.

4) No fender flares - The wheels fit (even 35s!) without ugly black plastic flares (looking at you Jeep and Bronco). Never understood why a base version vehicle would come with fender flares, did the design team not talk to the suspension team?

5) Cabana Top - OK so it's less than a removeable or convertible top but it's way more open than most sunroofs. Since modern vehicles have to have the giant roll cages, it's really only slightly less open than a Bronco with the front panels off and rear cap still on and far more liveable on a daily basis.

6) V2L/V2H (?) - Multiple built in 110v plugs are great. I hope the 220v is available on the Traveler (with Harvester), it wasn't clear to me. The ability to use an EV/EREV as an emergency generator is a huge bonus.

7) Frunk - Primo secure storage space. Love having a large lockable space hidden from prying eyes. Neat slide out seat and built in cupholders (and plugs!)

8) 7000# Tow rating - Twice as much as a Bronco. With this I could put my '78 Scout on a trailer to take to things like Nationals.

9) Bumpers - They appear to be steel and I like how they are separated from the body.

10) Off-road stuff - ground clearance, lockers, swaybar disco - nice. Looks like on-board air in the frunk too.
Can't "replace [your] '78 Scout" ....you gotta keep both!
 
Can't "replace [your] '78 Scout" ....you gotta keep both!
So funny, but this is true! When my wife discovered that my plan is to park my 1980 Diesel Scout II right next to the new Traveler in the driveway, she got a confused look on her face. But you can't abandon an old friend just because you make a new one!! I'll sell one of my other "normal" cars.
 
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I agree with everything above, except I'm still trying to get used to the "frunk." A pull out seat on the front seems unnecessary since kicking back, enjoying the view and tying another fly on my fly pole all happens on the tailgate. Design wise, I don't know what I'd do with the space, but I think it needs to be more "outside the box" than just a pull out seat. Enough about that.....

The only things I can add to the list of things I like is the "buy direct" strategy. Help keep the cost down. I also love that it's made in America. (It would be cool if it had a paint option for ghost striping that was reminiscent of the across the hood and down the side stripes.
 
I agree with everything above, except I'm still trying to get used to the "frunk." A pull out seat on the front seems unnecessary since kicking back, enjoying the view and tying another fly on my fly pole all happens on the tailgate. Design wise, I don't know what I'd do with the space, but I think it needs to be more "outside the box" than just a pull out seat. Enough about that.....

The only things I can add to the list of things I like is the "buy direct" strategy. Help keep the cost down. I also love that it's made in America. (It would be cool if it had a paint option for ghost striping that was reminiscent of the across the hood and down the side stripes.
But with the frunk the bin under the seat can hold ice and beer!
Now does it sound better ?.
I mean ice the fish you catch, got carried away there
 
  • 5.5' Bed
    • My R1T bed is just a bit too short. Longer bed will mean skis & gear easily fit, and more room to haul stuff.
  • Rivian Investment by VW
    • I see some excellent R1T design elements coming through in the Terra, but taking advantage of SW would be killer
  • Bench seat
    • I had a bench with a flip up console in my 2500HD prior to my R1T. It was pretty cool having 3 up front
  • 800 V Architecture / Pure BEV / 350 range target
    • Have been fine at just under ~300 miles of range on the R1T, but 350 would be killer + faster charging
  • Carplay
    • Ditto on the Rivian miss... Will be great to have WAZE back, and on the big screen instead of running in the background
  • Rugged Design
    • Sometimes I feel like my R1T is a little too nice, and would appreciate a bit more basic utility in a truck
  • Off-road capable / extreme service capable
    • Love the proposed design with a solid rear axle, mechanical front / rear, hoping for a coil over suspension and no air
  • Overhead Buttons + TECH!
    • Nice tactile touch to go with the Scout theme, but not overdone and does not take away from the required tech
  • Size and stance and good looks
    • Just a tad bigger is what I was hoping for in the Terra, and this size seems perfect, and proportions are great too
  • Scout heritage
    • Love the throwback design elements and the draw to the history of Scout throughout, and its specific utilitarian intent