Learnings from Rivian

[SeaGeo]

I own two Rivians and love them. That being said, a couple of suggestions to Scout based on experiences with my R1:
1. Consider what happens when shit goes wrong. Design the vehicle so that when something goes wrong, like an ADAS module dies, you can still limp along. Rear motor dies? Let the front pull you along if needed.
2. Allow offline storage of maps, music, etc. Give the vehicle the ability to estimate range on arrival when it doesn't have a data connection. Sure, it won't be able to account for the weather in the case, but current temp, elevation and speed from the map information should cover the majority of the conditions. TL;DR Facilitate keeping the vehicle as full functional as possible without a cellular data connection.

 

[cyure]

I own two Rivians and love them. That being said, a couple of suggestions to Scout based on experiences with my R1:
1. Consider what happens when shit goes wrong. Design the vehicle so that when something goes wrong, like an ADAS module dies, you can still limp along. Rear motor dies? Let the front pull you along if needed.
2. Allow offline storage of maps, music, etc. Give the vehicle the ability to estimate range on arrival when it doesn't have a data connection. Sure, it won't be able to account for the weather in the case, but current temp, elevation and speed from the map information should cover the majority of the conditions. TL;DR Facilitate keeping the vehicle as full functional as possible without a cellular data connection.

I’m curious, which Rivian model are you replacing and with which Scout model? And why?

 

[SeaGeo]

I’m curious, which Rivian model are you replacing and with which Scout model? And why?

Oooo this is a fun one. My R1T is an early vin Gen1. It's my go get outdoors vehicle. I would like to stay with a truck, but I do not want a full sized truck. I also don't love the look of the Terra. So that leaves me with the Traveler. So I mayyy end up re-upping with an R1T, but if Scout lands a few things I am more likely to go scout.

I appreciate the stated intentionality of facilitating working on your own vehicle, adding powered accessories easily, having lockers, and having some physical knobs/switches. I appreciate the look of the SUv, and the interior looks great. Plus potentially having a winch, etc would be nice. the bench seat is intriguing to bring my dog up to sit between me and my wife.

That being said, I'm concerned about losing the driving dynamics of my truck, particularly the suspension. I'm not at all thrilled about a solid axle, but I understand why people are. I have several other questions/concerns about choice that Scout can make between now and release. I'm have zero interest in the harvester, but if they don't nail the EV variant or the battery pack isn't big enough to have the real world range (both on and offroad) then I'll very likely stick with an R1T. Having my tent on the roof of an SUV rather than over the bed is also something I am still grappling with WRT range and energy efficiency.

 

[cyure]

Oooo this is a fun one. My R1T is an early vin Gen1. It's my go get outdoors vehicle. I would like to stay with a truck, but I do not want a full sized truck. I also don't love the look of the Terra. So that leaves me with the Traveler. So I mayyy end up re-upping with an R1T, but if Scout lands a few things I am more likely to go scout.

I appreciate the stated intentionality of facilitating working on your own vehicle, adding powered accessories easily, having lockers, and having some physical knobs/switches. I appreciate the look of the SUv, and the interior looks great. Plus potentially having a winch, etc would be nice. the bench seat is intriguing to bring my dog up to sit between me and my wife.

That being said, I'm concerned about losing the driving dynamics of my truck, particularly the suspension. I'm not at all thrilled about a solid axle, but I understand why people are. I have several other questions/concerns about choice that Scout can make between now and release. I'm have zero interest in the harvester, but if they don't nail the EV variant or the battery pack isn't big enough to have the real world range (both on and offroad) then I'll very likely stick with an R1T. Having my tent on the roof of an SUV rather than over the bed is also something I am still grappling with WRT range and energy efficiency.

Thanks for taking the time to reply!

 

[R1TVT]

I'm have zero interest in the harvester, but if they don't nail the EV variant or the battery pack isn't big enough to have the real world range (both on and offroad) then I'll very likely stick with an R1T.

As another R1T owner, I feel the same about the Harvester.
Once you own an EV truck and you realize the simplicity and low maintenance aspects of the pure BEV, it would be hard to go back.
But I would have a hard time going back to a gas lawnmower too.

I feel like 350 miles is just the right amount of range, so I'm with you on hoping the Terra nails it straight out of the gate.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

As another BEV truck owner, I'm not sure there's a semi-realistic scenario I can imagine that would convince me to go back to gas.

If I were choosing between the R1 and the Scout, it would be a tough call.

 

[SeaGeo]

As another R1T owner, I feel the same about the Harvester.
Once you own an EV truck and you realize the simplicity and low maintenance aspects of the pure BEV, it would be hard to go back.
But I would have a hard time going back to a gas lawnmower too.

I feel like 350 miles is just the right amount of range, so I'm with you on hoping the Terra nails it straight out of the gate.

I caused a ruckus last month saying I'd like more, but that's mostly because I want to see 350 miles at 70 with the 35s.