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[eddiet1212]

Volkswagen didn't say the government/administration is the problem, the author of the article mentions it regarding the unknown future.

Second, the government isn't funding car manufacturers through tax credits. The Inflation Reduction Act actually made it more difficult to qualify for tax credits. Nearly 40 vehicles were immediately off the list because they aren't/weren't produced in America. The second portion of the tax credit stipulates that a certain percentage of battery minerals have to be sourced from North America (and the percentage is on an increasing scale). It is consumers that would receive (or dealers getting reimbursed) for the tax credit. So as it stands now we have to wait and see what the new administration will actually do. The Inflation Reduction Act actually encouraged quite a bit of private manufacturing investment (Billions) across the country, particularly in "red" states. Let's see how this plays out.

Thank you for the response.

We all need to remember that at the moment there are a lot of unknowns and significant biased speculation (no politics implied). A lot of different variables driving the market.

A lot of fortune tellers in this world. I wish I could see the future too...lol

 

[eddiet1212]

I'm not sure FITS News is remotely close to a neutral news source.

The overwhelming majority of funding mentioned in the article regarding the Scout Motors factory was spent by the state on infrastructure improvements to the property. Expensive projects like a railroad bridge over a highway were the bulk of how those funds were spent. That was the state's commitment to try and get the factory built in South Carolina.

We have been transparent in what we are asking regarding selling/delivering vehicles in South Carolina regardless of how that person wants to spin/distort it.

I will say it. Fits News is a biased news source.

I am biased for Scout

 

[Jamie@ScoutMotors]

Tell that to GM, Rivian, Chrysler who will never pay back those federal loans they took.

I was referring to tax incentives specifically mentioned in the original article you quoted.

As for your quote above, you are lumping a bunch of different things together. Chrysler/Stallantis paid back the bailout money they received in 2009/2010. GM paid back $39 of $49 billion. I'm not sure GM going bankrupt would have been any less damaging to the economy and unemployment when you factor in all the employees, factories and suppliers. Rivian just received a loan, so it remains to be seen if they pay it all back.

I don't have time all day to fact-check this stuff...

 

[THil08]

I was referring to tax incentives specifically mentioned in the original article you quoted.

As for your quote above, you are lumping a bunch of different things together. Chrysler/Stallantis paid back the bailout money they received in 2009/2010. GM paid back $39 of $49 billion. I'm not sure GM going bankrupt would have been any less damaging to the economy and unemployment when you factor in all the employees, factories and suppliers. Rivian just received a loan, so it remains to be seen if they pay it all back.

I don't have time all day to fact-check this stuff...

All good Jamie! Also I’m a moron for not reading thoroughly on what you said.

 

[Czernobog]

Illuminating video on the the state of what is possible, from a current technologies perspective, regarding EV battery packs and DC fast charging.

The punchline summary: from Zeeker, a 7X with a 75 kilowatt hour LFP cell pack, 10-80% charge in 9 minutes 40 seconds when preconditioned, using an 800KW+ charging station! 0-100% took 22 minutes 20 seconds, and at 100% the estimated range was 600 kilometers (373 miles).

 

[Logan]

Illuminating video on the the state of what is possible, from a current technologies perspective, regarding EV battery packs and DC fast charging.

The punchline summary: from Zeeker, a 7X with a 75 kilowatt hour LFP cell pack, 10-80% charge in 9 minutes 40 seconds when preconditioned, using an 800KW+ charging station! 0-100% took 22 minutes 20 seconds, and at 100% the estimated range was 600 kilometers (373 miles).

Saw this today. The charging is "quite good".

Caveat, that the range, is using the chinese range estimate (CLTC), is usually regarded as "exceptionally optimistic".

Converting the CLTC range to EPA range, gives you a range estimate of ~421km (263 miles).

 

[J Alynn]

If buying a Chinese EV is appealing due to quick charging-go crazy . Not my cup of tea but glad tech is improving

 

[THil08]

@Jamie@ScoutMotors

Why didn’t you tell us this would be the power train for the harvester? Lol

 

[J Alynn]

For those considering the Terra there was a story update on this forum on 1/17 with a full breakdown of items they are willing to share to date (stories tab on home page for those who haven’t explored). It may not answer all questions but it clarifies a number of things so take a look if the Terra is your preferred SM vehicle.

 

[J Alynn]

New article about SM. Not much new but figured I’d post

Premium | CarBuzz

CarBuzz delivers content written by gamers for gamers with an emphasis on news, reviews, unique features, and interviews.

carbuzz.com

 

[eddiet1212]

A thread to drop news articles into.

Scout Shows Range Extender ICEs Are the Jerrycans of the Future​

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/scout-shows-range-extender-ices-are-the-jerrycans-of-the-future-246369.html

 

[eddiet1212]

A thread to drop news articles into.

Tesla is the only EV maker that can sell directly to consumers in WA. Lawmakers might change that

"...hearing on a bill to repeal Tesla’s exemption. That would mean no company that solely manufactures electric vehicles could directly sell their vehicles to customers..."

Tesla is the only EV maker that can sell directly to consumers in WA. Lawmakers might change that • Washington State Standard

Washington lawmakers may end the state's ban on electric vehicle manufacturers selling directly to consumers.

washingtonstatestandard.com

SB 5377 Washington State Legislature

app.leg.wa.gov

 

[J Alynn]

Tesla is the only EV maker that can sell directly to consumers in WA. Lawmakers might change that

"...hearing on a bill to repeal Tesla’s exemption. That would mean no company that solely manufactures electric vehicles could directly sell their vehicles to customers..."

Tesla is the only EV maker that can sell directly to consumers in WA. Lawmakers might change that • Washington State Standard

Washington lawmakers may end the state's ban on electric vehicle manufacturers selling directly to consumers.

washingtonstatestandard.com

SB 5377 Washington State Legislature

app.leg.wa.gov

Interesting approach

 

[CarTechGeek]

First actual VW dealer lawsuit (California was just a Cease and Desist) against Scout launched in Florida:

VW, Audi dealers file suit in Florida to block Scout Motors’ direct sales to state consumers

The lawsuit is believed to be the first formal legal challenge on behalf of VW and Audi dealers over Scout Motors' direct-sales model.

www.yahoo.com

 

[eddiet1212]

Ford To Build EREV SUVs, Super Duty Trucks As EV Plans Shift​

https://insideevs.com/news/749596/ford-erev-suvs-super-duty-truck-2027/

 

[THil08]

Scout better copyright the technology for it fast. Make some extra cash from it.

 

[THil08]

It's not really a new idea. An ICE engine turning a generator that in turn drives an electric drive train and also charges a battery has been around forever. Patent filed in 1889 by William H. Patton. Look up the Patton locomotive.

Doesn’t matter. It’s still not common in the Automotive industry. They could easily patent the technology. If they weren’t going to make something that was improved from his patent, then why would new R&D be need and why would it be taking so long for the information on it to come out on the Harvester?

And the Patton Locomotive was a standard hybrid not an EREV.

 

[Logan]

Doesn’t matter. It’s still not common in the Automotive industry. They could easily patent the technology. If they weren’t going to make something that was improved from his patent, then why would new R&D be need and why would it be taking so long for the information on it to come out on the Harvester?

And the Patton Locomotive was a standard hybrid not an EREV.

With the Ramcharger coming out a full year or two ahead of the Scouts, I'm not sure that we'll see Scout Patenting it.

Unless of course, they do it in some materially different way (which they might), but afaik, that probably won't be the case? But of course, if they can, and then license it, then yes, lets do that.

 

[THil08]

With the Ramcharger coming out a full year or two ahead of the Scouts, I'm not sure that we'll see Scout Patenting it.

Unless of course, they do it in some materially different way (which they might), but afaik, that probably won't be the case? But of course, if they can, and then license it, then yes, lets do that.

The only thing that worries me about the Ramcharger is that they keep pushing it’s production back and that it’s price tag is super expensive, which makes my believe that it will be yet another fail for Ram and Stellantis.

 

[chucchinchilla]

Doesn’t matter. It’s still not common in the Automotive industry. They could easily patent the technology. If they weren’t going to make something that was improved from his patent, then why would new R&D be need and why would it be taking so long for the information on it to come out on the Harvester?

And the Patton Locomotive was a standard hybrid not an EREV.

Chevy Volt
Fisker Karma
BMW i3 REX
Cadillac ELR

are some examples of EREVs that predate Scout Motors