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I have never even seen a real original scout so my recommendations are coming from a perspective of making it a great EV as well as a great scout. (in no specific order)

- No haptic feedback buttons: I know the VW ID4 has already discontinued the use of the non-button-buttons but i just want to point out that it should either be buttons or a screen.

- Dash-cam / parking lot security: Tesla and Rivian both added the ability for users to retrieve dashcam information as well as enabling sentry mode / gear guard to catch people backing up into the car in the parking lot or people doing other things to the vehicle. This is extremely useful for insurance claims and for peace of mind. Please ensure this is incorporated in the beginning.

- Dedicated Exterior button for Frunk: If there is a frunk (i would hope so), I would really suggest that there is a dedicated button to open it like on the Rivian who hides a button just under the grill. It is incredibly inconvenient to have to load up the app or to go inside (in teslas) to open up the frunk. I am assuming the design of the EV Scout will lend itself to a sizeable frunk and i want to make sure it is practical/usable.

- Charge port door: Looking at the industry there are many different versions of chart port door. Please make it as simple as possible just like the ID.4. Other implementations such as Rivian, Lucid, or even Tesla have motorized doors that open in fancy ways that will have proven to be another point of failure. While these are fun to put on marketing videos the novelty wears off and in the end it is just a door that needs to open so you can plug in.

- Charging speed: Please ensure that the charging curve / is somewhere in the range of 250KW+. Early ID4 had a very slow charging curve and later versions / updates allowed faster charging. However VW ID4 still barely scratches the surface of the maximum potential allowed by the VW Partnered Electrify America(300kw max)

- Heat pump: Please include a heat pump. Those of us not living in cold climates really benefit from the efficiency during the colder months of having an efficient heat source.

- Air Suspension: Not only will an air suspension give the Scout EV a very capable off road capability but daily commuters/errand runners will also benefit from the ability to lower the suspension for better aerodynamics.

- Spare tire: Please ensure that there is at the very least a half spare. I understand that spare tires add weight and can reduce range, but if the vehicle is to perform off road there is no option for a tow truck. Also those who know how to change a tire would greatly appreciate not having to call someone else because their car lacks the tools necessary to be self sufficient.

- Storage: Please take notes from Rivian and look into adding storage in every nook&cranny such as having the back seats open up to uncover a storage area in there.

- No piano black please!: I know piano black looks nice and shiny in marketing photos but they are fingerprint and dirt magnets and look terrible in a very short amount of time. Additionally if the scout is supposed to be a rugged vehicle it will get beat around a little and therefore the piano black surfaces will get scratched very easy and look ugly. Please use matte finishes that will withstand some living.

- Driver profiles: I can't say how convenient it is to have the not only the seat but the side mirrors, and steering wheel tied to the driver profile.Tesla also saves driving mode preferences as well as music preferences between driver. These are extremely helpful especially when there is a big height difference between spouses or a big difference in driving preferences.

These are all of the things i can think of right now. Maybe I'll be back for more later
 
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I have never even seen a real original scout so my recommendations are coming from a perspective of making it a great EV as well as a great scout. (in no specific order)

- No haptic feedback buttons: I know the VW ID4 has already discontinued the use of the non-button-buttons but i just want to point out that it should either be buttons or a screen.

- Dash-cam / parking lot security: Tesla and Rivian both added the ability for users to retrieve dashcam information as well as enabling sentry mode / gear guard to catch people backing up into the car in the parking lot or people doing other things to the vehicle. This is extremely useful for insurance claims and for peace of mind. Please ensure this is incorporated in the beginning.

- Dedicated Exterior button for Frunk: If there is a frunk (i would hope so), I would really suggest that there is a dedicated button to open it like on the Rivian who hides a button just under the grill. It is incredibly inconvenient to have to load up the app or to go inside (in teslas) to open up the frunk. I am assuming the design of the EV Scout will lend itself to a sizeable frunk and i want to make sure it is practical/usable.

- Charge port door: Looking at the industry there are many different versions of chart port door. Please make it as simple as possible just like the ID.4. Other implementations such as Rivian, Lucid, or even Tesla have motorized doors that open in fancy ways that will have proven to be another point of failure. While these are fun to put on marketing videos the novelty wears off and in the end it is just a door that needs to open so you can plug in.

- Charging speed: Please ensure that the charging curve / is somewhere in the range of 250KW+. Early ID4 had a very slow charging curve and later versions / updates allowed faster charging. However VW ID4 still barely scratches the surface of the maximum potential allowed by the VW Partnered Electrify America(300kw max)

- Heat pump: Please include a heat pump. Those of us not living in cold climates really benefit from the efficiency during the colder months of having an efficient heat source.

- Air Suspension: Not only will an air suspension give the Scout EV a very capable off road capability but daily commuters/errand runners will also benefit from the ability to lower the suspension for better aerodynamics.

- Spare tire: Please ensure that there is at the very least a half spare. I understand that spare tires add weight and can reduce range, but if the vehicle is to perform off road there is no option for a tow truck. Also those who know how to change a tire would greatly appreciate not having to call someone else because their car lacks the tools necessary to be self sufficient.

- Storage: Please take notes from Rivian and look into adding storage in every nook&cranny such as having the back seats open up to uncover a storage area in there.

- No piano black please!: I know piano black looks nice and shiny in marketing photos but they are fingerprint and dirt magnets and look terrible in a very short amount of time. Additionally if the scout is supposed to be a rugged vehicle it will get beat around a little and therefore the piano black surfaces will get scratched very easy and look ugly. Please use matte finishes that will withstand some living.

- Driver profiles: I can't say how convenient it is to have the not only the seat but the side mirrors, and steering wheel tied to the driver profile.Tesla also saves driving mode preferences as well as music preferences between driver. These are extremely helpful especially when there is a big height difference between spouses or a big difference in driving preferences.

These are all of the things i can think of right now. Maybe I'll be back for more later
I am in total agreement with the suggestions I see listed. Top on my list is the air suspension option, especially for the Terra truck.

I own several hybrid cars, and each has features I like and dislike. The Terra hybrid truck interests me to possibly replace my old farm F150.

When operating the plug-in 2017 Chevy Volt, I like the ability to manually override the computer with a push of a button to force the gas engine to engage, saving the battery charge for later operation. The battery drains faster at highway speeds but excels at city speeds. The gas engine performs best at highway speeds or under nominal load (for a car). So, I intentionally use gas on the highways and battery everywhere else. According to the onboard mileage calculator, this method allows me to hit 60 mpg consistently. With the Scout. I hope the option to manually select the fuel source (battery or gas engine) while driving is possible.

I dislike the Mountain Mode feature on the Volt that allows the recharging of a drained battery when driving with gas engine, but only to a 20% limit of capacity. The Mountain Mode concept is great but limited. Once the battery is depleted, I am forced to either stop, plug in and wait to recharge or drive primarily with gas the rest of the trip. With the Scout, I hope the gas engine can recharge a depleted battery to a higher capacity during normal operation when the gas engine is engaged.

When operating the 2021 Toyota Rav4 Hybrid, I like the gas engine/battery combo - no range anxiety of a TOTALLY electric vehicle and no plug-in required. Just gas and go. I dislike the lack of ability to override the computer to intentionally engage the gas engine and reserve the battery charge level, like in the Chevy Volt.

I am very happy to see that the Scout vehicles will have both energy sources. My question is, can the driver determine the source of fuel to power the vehicle, like the Chevy Volt, or will it be fully automated by the computer, like the Toyota Rav4?

I am new to this forum and learning a fast as possible.
 
I am in total agreement with the suggestions I see listed. Top on my list is the air suspension option, especially for the Terra truck.

I own several hybrid cars, and each has features I like and dislike. The Terra hybrid truck interests me to possibly replace my old farm F150.

When operating the plug-in 2017 Chevy Volt, I like the ability to manually override the computer with a push of a button to force the gas engine to engage, saving the battery charge for later operation. The battery drains faster at highway speeds but excels at city speeds. The gas engine performs best at highway speeds or under nominal load (for a car). So, I intentionally use gas on the highways and battery everywhere else. According to the onboard mileage calculator, this method allows me to hit 60 mpg consistently. With the Scout. I hope the option to manually select the fuel source (battery or gas engine) while driving is possible.

I dislike the Mountain Mode feature on the Volt that allows the recharging of a drained battery when driving with gas engine, but only to a 20% limit of capacity. The Mountain Mode concept is great but limited. Once the battery is depleted, I am forced to either stop, plug in and wait to recharge or drive primarily with gas the rest of the trip. With the Scout, I hope the gas engine can recharge a depleted battery to a higher capacity during normal operation when the gas engine is engaged.

When operating the 2021 Toyota Rav4 Hybrid, I like the gas engine/battery combo - no range anxiety of a TOTALLY electric vehicle and no plug-in required. Just gas and go. I dislike the lack of ability to override the computer to intentionally engage the gas engine and reserve the battery charge level, like in the Chevy Volt.

I am very happy to see that the Scout vehicles will have both energy sources. My question is, can the driver determine the source of fuel to power the vehicle, like the Chevy Volt, or will it be fully automated by the computer, like the Toyota Rav4?

I am new to this forum and learning a fast as possible.
Welcome to the community! You are in the right place to get your questions answered. Another great place to find info is the videos that are being posted on YouTube. There are a couple fairly recent ones from when the vehicles were at CES in January. You will have to forgive me but I don’t remember off the top of my head which video it was exactly, but yes, according to those videos you will be able to tell the vehicle what power source to use or you can let it decide. Another great way to learn is to follow @Jamie@ScoutMotors He engages with the community here quite frequently and provides valuable information from SM. I found looking up his prior posts was very helpful and now I follow him as well. He also posts great picture for us as well. Welcome again!
 
I have never even seen a real original scout so my recommendations are coming from a perspective of making it a great EV as well as a great scout. (in no specific order)

- No haptic feedback buttons: I know the VW ID4 has already discontinued the use of the non-button-buttons but i just want to point out that it should either be buttons or a screen.

- Dash-cam / parking lot security: Tesla and Rivian both added the ability for users to retrieve dashcam information as well as enabling sentry mode / gear guard to catch people backing up into the car in the parking lot or people doing other things to the vehicle. This is extremely useful for insurance claims and for peace of mind. Please ensure this is incorporated in the beginning.

- Dedicated Exterior button for Frunk: If there is a frunk (i would hope so), I would really suggest that there is a dedicated button to open it like on the Rivian who hides a button just under the grill. It is incredibly inconvenient to have to load up the app or to go inside (in teslas) to open up the frunk. I am assuming the design of the EV Scout will lend itself to a sizeable frunk and i want to make sure it is practical/usable.

- Charge port door: Looking at the industry there are many different versions of chart port door. Please make it as simple as possible just like the ID.4. Other implementations such as Rivian, Lucid, or even Tesla have motorized doors that open in fancy ways that will have proven to be another point of failure. While these are fun to put on marketing videos the novelty wears off and in the end it is just a door that needs to open so you can plug in.

- Charging speed: Please ensure that the charging curve / is somewhere in the range of 250KW+. Early ID4 had a very slow charging curve and later versions / updates allowed faster charging. However VW ID4 still barely scratches the surface of the maximum potential allowed by the VW Partnered Electrify America(300kw max)

- Heat pump: Please include a heat pump. Those of us not living in cold climates really benefit from the efficiency during the colder months of having an efficient heat source.

- Air Suspension: Not only will an air suspension give the Scout EV a very capable off road capability but daily commuters/errand runners will also benefit from the ability to lower the suspension for better aerodynamics.

- Spare tire: Please ensure that there is at the very least a half spare. I understand that spare tires add weight and can reduce range, but if the vehicle is to perform off road there is no option for a tow truck. Also those who know how to change a tire would greatly appreciate not having to call someone else because their car lacks the tools necessary to be self sufficient.

- Storage: Please take notes from Rivian and look into adding storage in every nook&cranny such as having the back seats open up to uncover a storage area in there.

- No piano black please!: I know piano black looks nice and shiny in marketing photos but they are fingerprint and dirt magnets and look terrible in a very short amount of time. Additionally if the scout is supposed to be a rugged vehicle it will get beat around a little and therefore the piano black surfaces will get scratched very easy and look ugly. Please use matte finishes that will withstand some living.

- Driver profiles: I can't say how convenient it is to have the not only the seat but the side mirrors, and steering wheel tied to the driver profile.Tesla also saves driving mode preferences as well as music preferences between driver. These are extremely helpful especially when there is a big height difference between spouses or a big difference in driving preferences.

These are all of the things i can think of right now. Maybe I'll be back for more later
All very nice suggestions. Especially "No piano black please" all my Lincolns have had this in various quantities and it is a finger print & dust magnet, absolutely the worst.