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[MDR]

I asked Scout whether they would use these next gen batteries,

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They responded

Hello! The main battery is projected to use Nickel Manganese Cobalt (NMC) chemistry, which is common in modern electric vehicles for its high energy density and performance. However, you can certainly post the suggestion on our community forum at https://community.scoutmotors.com/ (https://community.scoutmotors.com/)!

 

[cyure]

I asked Scout whether they would use these next gen batteries,

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Hello! The main battery is projected to use Nickel Manganese Cobalt (NMC) chemistry, which is common in modern electric vehicles for its high energy density and performance. However, you can certainly post the suggestion on our community forum at https://community.scoutmotors.com/ (https://community.scoutmotors.com/)!

Thanks for posting their reply.

 

[Jamie@ScoutMotors]

This article gives a good state of the union (and talks a bit about Donut Labs as well):

https://www.batterytechonline.com/design-manufacturing/can-donut-lab-deliver-production-ready-solid-state-batteries-for-verge-motorcycles-in-q1-2026

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

This article gives a good state of the union (and talks a bit about Donut Labs as well):

https://www.batterytechonline.com/design-manufacturing/can-donut-lab-deliver-production-ready-solid-state-batteries-for-verge-motorcycles-in-q1-2026

I am fully skeptical of Donut Lab.

I would be thrilled to be proven wrong.

 

[6-ScoutFamily]

This article gives a good state of the union (and talks a bit about Donut Labs as well):

https://www.batterytechonline.com/design-manufacturing/can-donut-lab-deliver-production-ready-solid-state-batteries-for-verge-motorcycles-in-q1-2026

At least Samsung gives an indication of battery size. I wonder how 900wh/L compares to current NMC technology.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Battery Chemistry (general)	Specific Energy (Wh/kg)	Energy Density (Wh/L)	Charge/Discharge Rate	Cycle Life	Thermal Runaway Temperature (°C)
LFP	90-120; <300 theoretical	300-350	20C; theoretically, but other aspects of the system will generally constrain this to 5-10C.	2000-5000	270
NMC	150-250; <300 theoretical	500-700	2C	1000-3000	210
SSB (lots of different chemistries, so this is a big range)	250-550	~800-1200	~2-20C; some claim higher, but generally other aspects of the system will likely constraint this to a maximum of 5-10C.	claims range from 1,000 to 100,000	>250

 

[Mousehunter]

I have my doubts about the Verge motorcycle. They claim it is in production, but quick google showed that it was a limited production run (100 units). Their extended range model has a 33.3kw/h battery. Hard to guess how many of the SS bikes will be made and how quickly they will make them - but there is a big difference in scale between numbers and battery size between Verge and Scout. Oh, and the 10kw extra battery size on the extended range verge cost an extra $5k - so they have a bit more margin to play with than Scout as well.

Something will be first with a SS or semi-SS battery. But I suspect it will still be some time before new battery tech will be available for mass production at reasonable quantities and price.
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In the past Scout has posted they expected NMC for the EV and LFP for the Harvester. I do not know if that has changed. I assume the thought was the smaller Harvester battery would need more C capacity and cycle life to have similar performance with it's smaller battery, while the EV would be more sensitive to battery density due to the larger battery size.

 

[THil08]

Powerco’s Unified Cell and Cell-to-pack Battery to Debut in Vw Group’s Electric Urban Family Car | Autocar Professional

The Unified Cell, which can be equipped with various cell chemistries from LFP and sodium-ion to NMC and solid-state serves as a global technology platform within the Volkswagen Group, and will be used in up to 80 percent of EVs across brands and regions.

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Nice to see that www.Powerco.de is actually operating.

 

[THil08]

Something will be first with a SS or semi-SS battery. But I suspect it will still be some time before new battery tech will be available for mass production at reasonable quantities and price.

It so far out, probably another 25 years before its mass produced. Unless China is able to make it for mass production which from what I have read it's a very expensive transition of tooling for SS, and then maybe US car companies can import them and reverse engineer it.

I know that BMW is mainly focusing on Lithium-Ion Technology since SS is too expensive upfront to mass produce at scale. And that it would be too expensive for the consumer.

 

[Mousehunter]

Watched a handful of videos on the Donut battery. One made an interesting observation. Apparently Donut made an investment in a company working with nano-materials and capacitors. Their capacitor had a lot of similarities to the battery that Donut was talking about. Charge speed and profile, non-lithium, forget if they mentioned density. Of course capacitors come with their own set of issues - those were not addressed. Even if they don't loose charge rapidly, they tend to have virtually no internal resistance and can very rapidly discharge (imagine 140kw/s arching in a fraction of a second - maybe not technically a fire or an explosion, but hotter).