Solid State Battery Tech for Dummies

[eddiet1212]

The below Car and Driver story helped me (the Dummy) understand battery tech, etc...LOL​

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What Are Solid-State Batteries, and Why Do They Matter for Electric Vehicles?​

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a63306863/solid-state-batteries-evs-explained


For the technically advanced, you may utilize the below forum discussion to learn from our forum experts about ev batteries.

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Thread 'Battery tech'

Oct 26, 2024

I understand Scout is being designed with current battery tech in mind i.e LI-ion etc. But is scout also looking at upcoming battery technologies like Solid state and semi solid-state. If in 5 years, battery technology has improved quite a bit, it would great if the car is designed in such a way that, we could simply install a new battery pack without buying a whole new car.

• neo
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[MaddMatt]

That was interesting, thanks

 

[pleasant tree]

The below Car and Driver story helped me (the Dummy) understand battery tech, etc...LOL​

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What Are Solid-State Batteries, and Why Do They Matter for Electric Vehicles?​

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a63306863/solid-state-batteries-evs-explained


For the technically advanced, you may utilize the below forum discussion to learn from our forum experts about ev batteries.

N

Thread 'Battery tech'

Oct 26, 2024

I understand Scout is being designed with current battery tech in mind i.e LI-ion etc. But is scout also looking at upcoming battery technologies like Solid state and semi solid-state. If in 5 years, battery technology has improved quite a bit, it would great if the car is designed in such a way that, we could simply install a new battery pack without buying a whole new car.

• neo
• Replies: 49
• Forum: GENERAL DISCUSSION

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Quantumscape (leading Solid State Battery) is in stiff competition with Factoral batteries (Mercedes) to produce the first Solid State Battery electric car. Quantumscape has a 2026 goal of producing its first commercial Launch using QSE-5 B1 high volume SSB batteries. It is too bad that Scout will not be the launch vehicle, because the low volume that they would produce would be perfect for the SSB launch car.

 

[Chavannigans]

Quantumscape (leading Solid State Battery) is in stiff competition with Factoral batteries (Mercedes) to produce the first Solid State Battery electric car. Quantumscape has a 2026 goal of producing its first commercial Launch using QSE-5 B1 high volume SSB batteries. It is too bad that Scout will not be the launch vehicle, because the low volume that they would produce would be perfect for the SSB launch car.

PowerCo and QuantumScape Announce Landmark Agreement to Industrialize Solid-State Batteries

Volkswagen Group’s battery company PowerCo and QuantumScape (NYSE: QS) today announced they have entered into a groundbreaking agreement to industrialize QuantumScape’s next-generation solid-state lithium-metal battery technology. Upon satisfactory technical progress and certain royalty...

www.volkswagen-group.com

VW announced some news about Quantumscape and PowerCo recently.

 

[pleasant tree]

The below Car and Driver story helped me (the Dummy) understand battery tech, etc...LOL​

​

What Are Solid-State Batteries, and Why Do They Matter for Electric Vehicles?​

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a63306863/solid-state-batteries-evs-explained


For the technically advanced, you may utilize the below forum discussion to learn from our forum experts about ev batteries.

N

Thread 'Battery tech'

Oct 26, 2024

I understand Scout is being designed with current battery tech in mind i.e LI-ion etc. But is scout also looking at upcoming battery technologies like Solid state and semi solid-state. If in 5 years, battery technology has improved quite a bit, it would great if the car is designed in such a way that, we could simply install a new battery pack without buying a whole new car.

• neo
• Replies: 49
• Forum: GENERAL DISCUSSION

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Quantumscape has fully incorporated "cobra", their high-speed system for manufacturing their proprietary ceramic separator, a key ingredient to Solid State Battery production. They are now producing high-speed solid-state cells for batteries. It is a tragedy that Scout chose not to work with PowerCo and Quantumscape to install new solid-state batteries into the Scout. Instead, Scout buyers will need to buy a fossil fuel range extender rather than just have the solid state battery which has significantly more range than the current Scout batteries, as well as quicker charging, far more safety, much longer life of the batteries and they are lighter. Management made a mistake saying this was too risky.

 

[Jamie@ScoutMotors]

Quantumscape has fully incorporated "cobra", their high-speed system for manufacturing their proprietary ceramic separator, a key ingredient to Solid State Battery production. They are now producing high-speed solid-state cells for batteries. It is a tragedy that Scout chose not to work with PowerCo and Quantumscape to install new solid-state batteries into the Scout. Instead, Scout buyers will need to buy a fossil fuel range extender rather than just have the solid state battery which has significantly more range than the current Scout batteries, as well as quicker charging, far more safety, much longer life of the batteries and they are lighter. Management made a mistake saying this was too risky.

Sorry, I don’t believe we’ve officially confirmed anything thus far on batteries.

 

[Chavannigans]

Sorry, I don’t believe we’ve officially confirmed anything thus far on batteries.

 

[J Alynn]

Quantumscape has fully incorporated "cobra", their high-speed system for manufacturing their proprietary ceramic separator, a key ingredient to Solid State Battery production. They are now producing high-speed solid-state cells for batteries. It is a tragedy that Scout chose not to work with PowerCo and Quantumscape to install new solid-state batteries into the Scout. Instead, Scout buyers will need to buy a fossil fuel range extender rather than just have the solid state battery which has significantly more range than the current Scout batteries, as well as quicker charging, far more safety, much longer life of the batteries and they are lighter. Management made a mistake saying this was too risky.

I certainly don’t want to spend $70K and be a guinea pig for a brand new auto company and 6 months later see tons of unknown problems. Already a gamble being first on a brand new model from a brand new company. Solid state just isn’t there yet but maybe they’ll offer them as a $18K upgrade and no warranty so trailblazers can take the gamble

 

[Chavannigans]

I certainly don’t want to spend $70K and be a guinea pig for a brand new auto company and 6 months later see tons of unknown problems. Already a gamble being first on a brand new model from a brand new company. Solid state just isn’t there yet but maybe they’ll offer them as a $18K upgrade and no warranty so trailblazers can take the gamble

If you read the Volkswagen press release I posted in the Extra Extra Read All About it thread, youll know that isnt the case. They have been testing them for several years already. Its not a fly by night operation with unproven technology.

 

[J Alynn]

If you read the Volkswagen press release I posted in the Extra Extra Read All About it thread, youll know that isnt the case. They have been testing them for several years already. Its not a fly by night operation with unproven technology.

I read it and it’s very promising but until proof of concept in road traveling vehicles that have been built in a scaled up manner is a different story. Some people like being first with technology and they spend their money on it as they find joy in being a retail customer/early adopter-beta tester. At the prices we will pay-I’m not willing to be a beta tester-unless they offer me one to test for them. There is already proven tech that makes EVs work and I’d prefer SM be successful out of the gate and not fumble like Fisker or others who never even made it out of the gate.

 

[THil08]

Sorry, I don’t believe we’ve officially confirmed anything thus far on batteries.

I agree Jamie! I haven't seen or heard anything. And i have topline sources.

 

[Chavannigans]

I read it and it’s very promising but until proof of concept in road traveling vehicles that have been built in a scaled up manner is a different story. Some people like being first with technology and they spend their money on it as they find joy in being a retail customer/early adopter-beta tester. At the prices we will pay-I’m not willing to be a beta tester-unless they offer me one to test for them. There is already proven tech that makes EVs work and I’d prefer SM be successful out of the gate and not fumble like Fisker or others who never even made it out of the gate.

Buying a first gen product makes you a beta tester. This is a really confusing and contradictory statement, but okay.