Actual delay official and order of deliveries confirmed?

[J Alynn]

I think it’s fair to have and express feelings of concern.

We don’t really know much about what’s going to happen.

Every day brings new challenges for a start-up in the automotive industry, even a very well-funded start-up like Scout Motors. They’re looking 2-3 years ahead while trying to not respond too dramatically to the political nonsense going on…but at some point some of the political nonsense becomes more permanent and they will have to respond.

For example, it’s not inconceivable that oil goes to $150-$200 per barrel in a relatively short time period.

Carvana is selling its used EVs very quickly right now. Prices have been increasing by several hundred a day to several thousand over the past several days. It’s not inconceivable that the over-subscription of Scout EREVs will drop dramatically if the idiotic war continues. As I understand it, the production lines are agnostic about BEV vs EREV (as they should be). If Scout sees that people are switching their EREV reservations to BEV reservations, they will probably be able to respond relatively quickly to that change in demand.

Gas by us jumped $.10 since yesterday and it jumped $.10 from the day prior at our local Costco. Only gonna get worse

 

[Gottesacker]

Gas prices have always seemed to only temporarily affect car-buying for the most part. I remember after 9/11 everyone started off-loading their big SUVs, but they're still here. They still sell well, and that's with prices being higher than they were. I think it's short-sighted to only focus on gas prices affecting car-buyers in the short term when energy prices in many parts of the country also ebb and flow, but seems to mainly be rising.

 

[strider]

Does anyone know if it's accurate that it is easy to deliver the BEV alongside the Harvester?

Jamie said the variants will be treated as the same vehicle when it comes to the line. I read that as they won't have to reconfigure the line to make Harvester vs BEV Traveller. This leads me to believe that there will be reconfigured when switching from Traveller to Terra.

Scout will want to run the line and full speed so some of this may come down to suppliers. If Scout is short on engines, gas tanks, etc. they will make more BEVs. If they are short on battery cells they will make more Harvesters.

 

[cyure]

Jamie said the variants will be treated as the same vehicle when it comes to the line. I read that as they won't have to reconfigure the line to make Harvester vs BEV Traveller. This leads me to believe that there will be reconfigured when switching from Traveller to Terra.

Scout will want to run the line and full speed so some of this may come down to suppliers. If Scout is short on engines, gas tanks, etc. they will make more BEVs. If they are short on battery cells they will make more Harvesters.

Also I would imagine it would depend on orders. I would think they would also want to batch based on orders.

 

[J Alynn]

Also I would imagine it would depend on orders. I would think they would also want to batch based on orders.

In modern factories batching isn’t like it used to be. At BMW the upper supply belt would have 3 black sets of seats, then a brown, then 2 red then a brown. A lot of components can be changed from one vehicle to the next and sounds like engine as well. I suspect the only big change is traveler to Terra otherwise it’s pretty flexible. Even the painting can change from one vehicle to the next

 

[cyure]

In modern factories batching isn’t like it used to be. At BMW the upper supply belt would have 3 black sets of seats, then a brown, then 2 red then a brown. A lot of components can be changed from one vehicle to the next and sounds like engine as well. I suspect the only big change is traveler to Terra otherwise it’s pretty flexible. Even the painting can change from one vehicle to the next

Well you learn something new everyday. This is why I need a factory tour.

 

[Nmagnatta]

So looks like I'll lease the R2 for a couple years then get the Scout in 2028.

 

[cyure]

So looks like I'll lease the R2 for a couple years then get the Scout in 2028.

Are they offering leases right off the bat?

 

[Nmagnatta]

Are they offering leases right off the bat?

No clue. Lol. We will find out Thursday when it goes live. Honestly I don't think they will at least right away.

 

[J Alynn]

Well you learn something new everyday. This is why I need a factory tour.

It was eye opening

 

[J Alynn]

No clue. Lol. We will find out Thursday when it goes live. Honestly I don't think they will at least right away.

That would be a great step into BEV without long term commitment

 

[RodorW]

Okay J I will quite being negative Nelly. With all my concerns and selfish wants my Terra bev rez is staying at least until fall of 2028.

We can wish for scout to start with the lowest reservation models to get them out the door first. Quickest crowd to serve, BEV Terra

 

[cyure]

We can wish for scout to start with the lowest reservation models to get them out the door first. Quickest crowd to serve, BEV Terra

I’m all for advocating for what we want!

 

[Logan]

Gas by us jumped $.10 since yesterday and it jumped $.10 from the day prior at our local Costco. Only gonna get worse

Our prices here have jumped locally as well.

Around Valentine’s Day it was around $3.79 or so. On Friday it was $4.39, and today it was $4.49. And I see articles saying barrels of crude could go up to $150. Which if true, would definitely continue to go up. Wonder if we’ll see it go up to $5-6/gallon.

 

[cyure]

Our prices here have jumped locally as well.

Around Valentine’s Day it was around $3.79 or so. On Friday it was $4.39, and today it was $4.49. And I see articles saying barrels of crude could go up to $150. Which if true, would definitely continue to go up. Wonder if we’ll see it go up to $5-6/gallon.

There’s a guy I follow online, gas buddy. He’s good with facts and not freaking out. He just said it’s up to $115 a barrel. My son has a Venue that gets 30 city/40 highway. I told him we are going to be taking his car more places.

 

[J Alynn]

Our prices here have jumped locally as well.

Around Valentine’s Day it was around $3.79 or so. On Friday it was $4.39, and today it was $4.49. And I see articles saying barrels of crude could go up to $150. Which if true, would definitely continue to go up. Wonder if we’ll see it go up to $5-6/gallon.

Good lord I hope not. Nobody ever catches up. My wife got a 1-1/2% raise this year and that’s now gone and then some. We can’t keep up with the increased cost of living.

 

[speedrye]

In modern factories batching isn’t like it used to be. At BMW the upper supply belt would have 3 black sets of seats, then a brown, then 2 red then a brown. A lot of components can be changed from one vehicle to the next and sounds like engine as well. I suspect the only big change is traveler to Terra otherwise it’s pretty flexible. Even the painting can change from one vehicle to the next

This is why I'm hoping for more à la carte pricing and less package pricing for options. There's no reason to force packages on people with the manufacturing tech that's currently in place unless the individual options can't physically go together. I really want a ventilated bench seat up front, but I realize that likely won't happen.

 

[cyure]

This is why I'm hoping for more à la carte pricing and less package pricing for options. There's no reason to force packages on people with the manufacturing tech that's currently in place unless the individual options can't physically go together. I really want a ventilated bench seat up front, but I realize that likely won't happen.

If the base costs $60 isn’t it in the realm of possibility that they come with vented seats? I would imagine there are other vehicles in that price range that come with that feature.

 

[speedrye]

If the base costs $60 isn’t it in the realm of possibility that they come with vented seats? I would imagine there are other vehicles in that price range that come with that feature.

A proper design that uses the same interface, wiring, seat blowers, etc should keep it economical to implement. I'm okay if the center seat doesn't get vents to keep things more standardized.

 

[Logan]

Good lord I hope not. Nobody ever catches up. My wife got a 1-1/2% raise this year and that’s now gone and then some. We can’t keep up with the increased cost of living.

100% agree.

My raise last year was also tiny. I had some buddies at work get < 1%. I was just over 1%. And the year before we got 0% (for everyone). Its not been "awesome" lately. But we're fortunate, I feel bad for those worse off, as these fuel prices have a bigger impact on them.

The only thing keeping things manageable for me right now, is that the house payment doesn't change, and we refinanced during covid for a tiny interest rate. And with the PHEV, and the EV, we're not buying gas much at all these days (I laughingly said that we'll use more gas in the lawn mower this year, than we will in the cars ).