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SpaceEVDriver said:
Tucson has an ordinance that requires rescuees to pay for rescues if they passed a sign that warned of flooded roads.

That said, the issue is less about the stupidity of humans—of which we have an endless supply—and more about the unpredictability of automated driving. A human making the decision to drive into the flooded road is responsible for that decision. Who is responsible if an autonomous car decides to drive into a flooded road? What is a passenger to do when a Waymo starts to enter a flooded area? What is a passenger to do when an automated taxi decides to just stop? A person in their own car can turn around and go somewhere else. If they’re in an automated taxi, they’re either stuck in the car or have to get out and walk, neither of which may be safe during flash flood conditions.
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I don't know the T&C's of their EULA nor do I work at Waymo so I would defer to their website on legal responsibilities. What I do know is you can press an emergency button in the car if something goes wrong and if need be, they can remotely reroute the vehicle.
 
SpaceEVDriver said:
Tucson has an ordinance that requires rescuees to pay for rescues if they passed a sign that warned of flooded roads.

That said, the issue is less about the stupidity of humans—of which we have an endless supply—and more about the unpredictability of automated driving. A human making the decision to drive into the flooded road is responsible for that decision. Who is responsible if an autonomous car decides to drive into a flooded road? What is a passenger to do when a Waymo starts to enter a flooded area? What is a passenger to do when an automated taxi decides to just stop? A person in their own car can turn around and go somewhere else. If they’re in an automated taxi, they’re either stuck in the car or have to get out and walk, neither of which may be safe during flash flood conditions.
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Exactly. I should have elaborated but was thinking this exact same thing
 
SpaceEVDriver said:
It’s real. It’s as stupid as it sounds.
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Lordy. I remember an old episode of Myth Busters. Two cars left at the same time. One followed the rules. Didn’t change lanes trying to find the “fastest lane”, didn’t run yellow lights etc. the other car changes lanes, passed slow cars, went through yellow lights, etc. to see if there was a difference. It was something like a 2 minute difference. I have always remembered that when I am in a rush. It doesn’t get you there faster. So unless you are cannonballing it across the country to break a record or something it’s just not necessary.
 
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I suspect the difference is how much you don't follow the rules... Your description did not include utterly ignoring the speed limit for instance.
 
OleScout said:
Yeah, I'm hoping this is just a terrible render. Toyota did well on the Landcruiser style with the original FJ 60-62 series, I hope this resembles either the 40 series or recent FJ series.
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That's just the Toyota Compact Cruiser EV shown off in 2021 along with a host of other future Toyota products, as seen back left in this pic. Important to note it's parked next to a production-ready 4th gen Tacoma that came out 2 years after this picture was taken, it's possible the Compact Cruiser is also production ready or close to it.
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