Scout Traveler SUV Green Off-Road Concept

[SpaceEVDriver]

LOL. If you are going downhill with regen you could actually be producing more energy than your battery can physically accept. Steep grades with a trailer will "push" so much energy so fast that regen can become limited with heat, or if there is the potential to run out of battery capacity based on a high SOC, for example. This is also when you realize how inefficient mechanical brakes are on an ICE vehicle.

If I want to get an unreasonably high efficiency for my road trips, I’ll charge to 95% instead of 100% and let the elevation give me a regenerative boost on my way down off the mountain. It’s not as much as I’d like it to be (I might get 2.7-2.9 miles/kWh instead of 2.5 miles/kWh), but it’s better than nothing. Of course, I pay for that and more coming back up the mountain.

 

[AlanL]

Okay another one of my pesky questions. When all your EV owners out there for your first EV did you ever go too far, not have enough range to get to a charger and have to be towed? I think that’s ones of my fears is being stranded with a dead car and no one can just bring me a can of electricity.

Mine too. I have heard that some tow and roadside assistance operators now carry a small battery just like they carry a gas can.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

If you run out of gas, what do you do?

Generally you call AAA or some other support service. They either bring some gas to you or they send a tow truck and bring you to the closest gas station.

If you run out of electricity in a Ford EV, you call Ford. They tow you to your house or to the nearest charging station, whichever is closer. For free.
If you run out in some other EV, either you cover the cost yourself or you find the fine print that covers your costs by calling the manufacturer first. You get a tow to the nearest charger or your home, whichever is closer.

I would not accept a charge on the side of the highway, just like I don’t accept any other service on the side of the highway—if I can’t get off the highway, I’ll call for a tow rather than for roadside service.

The time to get that service to you is generally going to depend on a number of factors; my experience is that any response on a road trip takes several hours before the service arrives.

Loading a vehicle on a flatbed tow truck does take little a bit longer to do than pouring some gas in the tank, but as a fraction of the time it takes to get the truck to you, it’s not a lot.

How do you avoid running out of gas? You pay attention to your fuel levels and refuel when necessary.
How do you avoid running out of charge? You pay attention to your charge levels and recharge when necessary.

Can it happen? Sure, of course. But I know a lot of people with EVs and don’t know anyone who has literally run out (the earlier story I told is as close as I’ve seen).

AAA sees fewer calls for EVs per EV on the road than they see calls for ICE vehicles per ICE vehicle on the road.

 

[Chavannigans]

Mine too. I have heard that some tow and roadside assistance operators now carry a small battery just like they carry a gas can.

Not a bad idea.

If you run out of gas, what do you do?

Generally you call AAA or some other support service. They either bring some gas to you or they send a tow truck and bring you to the closest gas station.

If you run out of electricity in a Ford EV, you call Ford. They tow you to your house or to the nearest charging station, whichever is closer. For free.
If you run out in some other EV, either you cover the cost yourself or you find the fine print that covers your costs by calling the manufacturer first. You get a tow to the nearest charger or your home, whichever is closer.

I would not accept a charge on the side of the highway, just like I don’t accept any other service on the side of the highway—if I can’t get off the highway, I’ll call for a tow rather than for roadside service.

The time to get that service to you is generally going to depend on a number of factors; my experience is that any response on a road trip takes several hours before the service arrives.

Loading a vehicle on a flatbed tow truck does take little a bit longer to do than pouring some gas in the tank, but as a fraction of the time it takes to get the truck to you, it’s not a lot.

How do you avoid running out of gas? You pay attention to your fuel levels and refuel when necessary.
How do you avoid running out of charge? You pay attention to your charge levels and recharge when necessary.

Can it happen? Sure, of course. But I know a lot of people with EVs and don’t know anyone who has literally run out (the earlier story I told is as close as I’ve seen).

AAA sees fewer calls for EVs per EV on the road than they see calls for ICE vehicles per ICE vehicle on the road.

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Also, I don’t know who needs to hear this but many states offer roadside assistance for free 1-2 times a year.

There is a number on the back my Texas drivers license.

If I call, a DPS officer will come pop my door lock if I leave my keys and phone inside.

They will also help you change a tires, jump start your car, and even bring you a few gallons of gas if you run out. Some will pull you off the highway if you’re in a dangerous spot.

Being nice to them can go a long way.

Some areas like Austin, San Antonio, and El Paso have the HERO program that can include free towing.

I encourage you all to check it out, you’ve been paying for it so you may as well use it.

 

[Mousehunter]

Thought I posted in this thread, but maybe I posted in a similar thread on the other forum... I think the design is very clean and refined. That said, it is not the direction I would take if I personally modified a vehicle. I live in an area where deer strikes are fairly common - so I prefer more protection out of my brush guards. Of the 3 cars I currently have at my house, one took a $7k animal hit, the other 2 hits which combined were probably about $6k (with a third random hit of something, don't even know what or when - that was another $1500). VW HID headlights are expensive to replace. My trucks have taken several hits with $0 of damage due to the corner protection offered by my brush guards. Deer will hide in shadows, bolt from tall grass - one of my hits I barely had time to register the deer before the collision (and I was driving at 15mph BELOW the speed limit).

The hidden winch is refined-but just always seemed to me that it is nice to see the rope. Likewise, I will be towing at least some, so miss the inclusion of a square hitch receiver in the back.
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Anyway, not saying that anything on the vehicle is a deal killer for me - but I would still want to aftermarket the front bumper, still want to add a tow hitch, and would hate to have to pay for a second winch just because the one that comes with the take off bumper is proprietary. Would even be more annoyed if I payed for the wiring of that hidden winch only to have to run my own for an aftermarket solution for my aftermarket bumper.

 

[Logan]

Thought I posted in this thread, but maybe I posted in a similar thread on the other forum... I think the design is very clean and refined. That said, it is not the direction I would take if I personally modified a vehicle. I live in an area where deer strikes are fairly common - so I prefer more protection out of my brush guards. Of the 3 cars I currently have at my house, one took a $7k animal hit, the other 2 hits which combined were probably about $6k (with a third random hit of something, don't even know what or when - that was another $1500). VW HID headlights are expensive to replace. My trucks have taken several hits with $0 of damage due to the corner protection offered by my brush guards. Deer will hide in shadows, bolt from tall grass - one of my hits I barely had time to register the deer before the collision (and I was driving at 15mph BELOW the speed limit).

The hidden winch is refined-but just always seemed to me that it is nice to see the rope. Likewise, I will be towing at least some, so miss the inclusion of a square hitch receiver in the back.
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Anyway, not saying that anything on the vehicle is a deal killer for me - but I would still want to aftermarket the front bumper, still want to add a tow hitch, and would hate to have to pay for a second winch just because the one that comes with the take off bumper is proprietary. Would even be more annoyed if I payed for the wiring of that hidden winch only to have to run my own for an aftermarket solution for my aftermarket bumper.

I feel grateful that while we have a lot of deer here, they don’t seem inclined to dart out into traffic.

Here is a group of 5-7 that sleeps in my backyard a couple times a week.

I wouldn’t mind it so much, but they eat all of our plants (we planted 400 tulips one year… and none of them bloomed) and our neighbor feeds them, so they get a bit too friendly sometimes :/.

 

[cyure]

Thought I posted in this thread, but maybe I posted in a similar thread on the other forum... I think the design is very clean and refined. That said, it is not the direction I would take if I personally modified a vehicle. I live in an area where deer strikes are fairly common - so I prefer more protection out of my brush guards. Of the 3 cars I currently have at my house, one took a $7k animal hit, the other 2 hits which combined were probably about $6k (with a third random hit of something, don't even know what or when - that was another $1500). VW HID headlights are expensive to replace. My trucks have taken several hits with $0 of damage due to the corner protection offered by my brush guards. Deer will hide in shadows, bolt from tall grass - one of my hits I barely had time to register the deer before the collision (and I was driving at 15mph BELOW the speed limit).

The hidden winch is refined-but just always seemed to me that it is nice to see the rope. Likewise, I will be towing at least some, so miss the inclusion of a square hitch receiver in the back.
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Anyway, not saying that anything on the vehicle is a deal killer for me - but I would still want to aftermarket the front bumper, still want to add a tow hitch, and would hate to have to pay for a second winch just because the one that comes with the take off bumper is proprietary. Would even be more annoyed if I payed for the wiring of that hidden winch only to have to run my own for an aftermarket solution for my aftermarket bumper.

Wow those are some sneaky deer. Glad you are okay. Those animal hits can be really dangerous.

This is the first bumper/winch combo we have seen. I’m hoping we see some other options as well.

It would be great on things like that if they do polls like they have done the color poll let the community vote for which designs they like the best.

 

[cyure]

I feel grateful that while we have a lot of deer here, they don’t seem inclined to dart out into traffic.

Here is a group of 5-7 that sleeps in my backyard a couple times a week.

I wouldn’t mind it so much, but they eat all of our plants (we planted 400 tulips one year… and none of them bloomed) and our neighbor feeds them, so they get a bit too friendly sometimes :/.


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Awh but they are so cute.

 

[Chavannigans]

We have a lot of deer here. A young spike ran in front of me a few months back around a blind curve. He saw me, panicked tripped and fell as he passed by. I saw him and slammed on my brakes but didn’t want to swerve off the road

Definitely wouldn’t want a brush guard though. A small hit like that can turn into a massive repair. They are called Damage Multipliers for a reason. If you hit a deer with one it will fold into your hood and fenders spreading more damage across the front.

Only a steel bumper with steel hoops would protect the front in an instance like that.

 

[cyure]

We have a lot of deer here. A young spike ran in front of me a few months back around a blind curve. He saw me, panicked tripped and fell as he passed by. I saw him and slammed on my brakes but didn’t want to swerve off the road View attachment 6923

Definitely wouldn’t want a brush guard though. A small hit like that can turn into a massive repair. They are called Damage Multipliers for a reason. If you hit a deer with one it will fold into your hood and fenders spreading more damage across the front.

Only a steel bumper with steel hoops would protect the front in an instance like that.

Thankfully I have never hit a deer. Just one of those giant geese we have here in Illinois. For a flighted bird they sure do walk slowly across the street and I didn’t see one until the last second. I swerved, he took flight and ended up rolling up onto the hood and windshield. No damage you could just see the dirt track where he rolled. I felt terrible. I went back and he was gone so I choose to believe he was fine just slightly stunned.

 

[J Alynn]

Thought I posted in this thread, but maybe I posted in a similar thread on the other forum... I think the design is very clean and refined. That said, it is not the direction I would take if I personally modified a vehicle. I live in an area where deer strikes are fairly common - so I prefer more protection out of my brush guards. Of the 3 cars I currently have at my house, one took a $7k animal hit, the other 2 hits which combined were probably about $6k (with a third random hit of something, don't even know what or when - that was another $1500). VW HID headlights are expensive to replace. My trucks have taken several hits with $0 of damage due to the corner protection offered by my brush guards. Deer will hide in shadows, bolt from tall grass - one of my hits I barely had time to register the deer before the collision (and I was driving at 15mph BELOW the speed limit).

The hidden winch is refined-but just always seemed to me that it is nice to see the rope. Likewise, I will be towing at least some, so miss the inclusion of a square hitch receiver in the back.
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Anyway, not saying that anything on the vehicle is a deal killer for me - but I would still want to aftermarket the front bumper, still want to add a tow hitch, and would hate to have to pay for a second winch just because the one that comes with the take off bumper is proprietary. Would even be more annoyed if I payed for the wiring of that hidden winch only to have to run my own for an aftermarket solution for my aftermarket bumper.

Based on deer strike experiences we’d need guards all the way down the sides . South central PA deer like to broad side you for some reason. Not sure which is worse or which costs more. Light and grills cost money but front quarter damage all the way to the rear quarter panel adds up quickly too. Aaaah-hunting season and the Rut!

 

[Coyle70]

Color Color Color
luv it!
Car companies and this world has bland and gray.
Put some color in your lives people.
Add metallics or pearl.
Make it shine make it pop!!
Woohoo

 

[cyure]

Color Color Color
luv it!
Car companies and this world has bland and gray.
Put some color in your lives people.
Add metallics or pearl.
Make it shine make it pop!!
Woohoo

YELLOW! I scream yellow at every opportunity.

 

[Coyle70]

YELLOW! I scream yellow at every opportunity.

Amen! Let the sun shine in

 

[J Alynn]

YELLOW! I scream yellow at every opportunity.

I thought you said purple

 

[cyure]

I thought you said purple

Not sunshine yellow. Not orangey yellow. Butter yellow. It has to be the right shade.

 

[J Alynn]

Not sunshine yellow. Not orangey yellow. Butter yellow. It has to be the right shade.

Aaah-pink is pink. You’ll love your pink Scout

 

[J Alynn]

Just use the colors from the characters in Reservoir Dogs

 

[COchemgravel]

While the front bumper looks "fun' .... It is a departure from the clean iconic Scout II look. This is looking more like a hummer. The 'Desert Sage' is a nice color of green!

 

[cyure]

While the front bumper looks "fun' .... It is a departure from the clean iconic Scout II look. This is looking more like a hummer. The 'Desert Sage' is a nice color of green!

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