Guess who drives an IH Scout II? Tim Walz

[PVanderVossen]

Tim Walz has a sweet 1979 Scout II, and he takes his dog "Scout" for rides in it.

Tim Walz Drives a 1979 IH Scout II - Off-Road Trips

In the midst of a chaotic presidential election, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz has emerged today as Vice President Kamala Harris’ running mate. Here are OffRoadTripz, we look beyond the political arena, and are more interested in the passion that sets Walz apart: classic cars. Specifically, his...

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[Scoutsie]

I hope his people have been contacted regardless of whether or not he is to end up as the vice president of these United States because that is pure marketing gold.

 

[Scotus]

Cabinet positions for forum members?

 

[THil08]

Not trying to burst anyones bubble. But im a Republican. And i do think its cool but why praise him for it.

 

[J Alynn]

Not trying to burst anyones bubble. But im a Republican. And i do think its cool but why praise him for it.

I don’t think it was praise. Just recognition that a politician owns a cool ride. No intent to delve into political arena-just cool to see someone who is deep in the political world (D or R) has a cool vehicle factor and a beautiful ride.

 

[JohnnyScout]

Yep it's nothing leaning one way or another except that Tim (and we all with nostalgic ICE vehicles) will continue to need a certain availability of liquid fuels.

The world (California excluded) in my limited perspective is a long way from absolute 100% EV with a ban on driving or even owning ICE.

 

[R1TVT]

There was a time (not that long ago - and I was born in 1969) when it didn't seem to matter much what your personal politics were - you could literally respect and get along with anyone, no matter which way you (or they) were leaning, and you could find commonalities (like your car or truck, or fishing, or sports for example) that you shared. In fact politics never seemed to come into the discussion - unless you watched the evening news. That was when the Republican party was represented by more than 1 person, and when inanimate objects weren't politicized, and when everything wasn't polarized. It was a better time for our country. So, I say carry on to all the old and new Scout drivers out there.

I have Democrat, Republican and Independent-type friends that share a lot of the same interests as me - even if their personal political leanings are more socially conservative or more fiscally progressive, or vice versa. We all respect each other for who we are. Life would be quite boring if we were all the same - we've seen the dangers of that play out on the global stage. We don't need that anywhere, and we probably don't need to put any labels on a new truck being launched by Scout either. Scout seems to intentionally want to cater to anyone and everyone interested in their vision and mission, and if you are selling a truck like Scout is, you seek truck buyers - no matter which way they put on their socks or buckle their belt.

You can easily make the case that buying a new Scout will be your most patriotic truck purchase ever. That was how I felt when I purchased my American-made R1T and charged it with Solar from my own roof top. Being a patriot and wanting to support independence and freedom are concepts that are neither Democrat nor Republican - they are American. Listen to the teaser video and you will hear that the new Scout is not about splitting people apart - sounds more like the messaging is about bringing people together. This starts with humility, respect and an intelligence about where we come from, how our country was founded, and the ideals that our founders were striving for. Here's to the land of the free, the home of the brave and wherever this new Scout will take us. i don't care who is driving, as long as we have mutual respect.

 

[THil08]

Yep it's nothing leaning one way or another except that Tim (and we all with nostalgic ICE vehicles) will continue to need a certain availability of liquid fuels.

The world (California excluded) in my limited perspective is a long way from absolute 100% EV with a ban on driving or even owning ICE.

Agree with you on that. California Excluded.

 

[Cranky Canuck]

Yep it's nothing leaning one way or another except that Tim (and we all with nostalgic ICE vehicles) will continue to need a certain availability of liquid fuels.

The world (California excluded) in my limited perspective is a long way from absolute 100% EV with a ban on driving or even owning ICE.

No one is proposing banning ownership or driving ICE vehicles. Not even California. So-called "EV mandates" have nothing to do with that, they are supply side incentives to ensure automakers provide enough EVs to market, not to force people to buy EVs. Besides, lots of people still ride horses, they weren't banned when cars came along. Fossil-burners will always continue to exist just as people have horses and some even keep steam locomotives around or vehicles like the Model T.

The future of daily driving will definitely be electric though, and sooner than one might think. If current trends continue, and there's no reason or indication to think that they won't, all new vehicles sold in North America will be electric by the mid-2030's regardless of incentives (or disincentives...looking at you Saskatchewan and Ohio!). Just like the world switched from landlines to cell phones, and from cell phones to smart phones, and tube TVs to flat screens, and from film to digital, so too will vehicles switch from fossil power to electric.

Why?

Because electric is better, cheaper and more reliable. EVs are following a standard adoption curve just as every disruptive technology before them has. Fleets will switch (and most already are) because EVs are simply much cheaper and more reliable to operate than their combustion counterparts. Individuals will switch because eventually someone they know will switch and they'll see first hand just how much better and easier to live with an EV is compared to a fossil vehicle.

So if the mid-2030's are a "long way" then sure, we're a long way from 100% EV. But as I age a decade doesn't feel as long as it used to.

 

[THil08]

No one is proposing banning ownership or driving ICE vehicles. Not even California. So-called "EV mandates" have nothing to do with that, they are supply side incentives to ensure automakers provide enough EVs to market, not to force people to buy EVs. Besides, lots of people still ride horses, they weren't banned when cars came along. Fossil-burners will always continue to exist just as people have horses and some even keep steam locomotives around or vehicles like the Model T.

The future of daily driving will definitely be electric though, and sooner than one might think. If current trends continue, and there's no reason or indication to think that they won't, all new vehicles sold in North America will be electric by the mid-2030's regardless of incentives (or disincentives...looking at you Saskatchewan and Ohio!). Just like the world switched from landlines to cell phones, and from cell phones to smart phones, and tube TVs to flat screens, and from film to digital, so too will vehicles switch from fossil power to electric.

Why?

Because electric is better, cheaper and more reliable. EVs are following a standard adoption curve just as every disruptive technology before them has. Fleets will switch (and most already are) because EVs are simply much cheaper and more reliable to operate than their combustion counterparts. Individuals will switch because eventually someone they know will switch and they'll see first hand just how much better and easier to live with an EV is compared to a fossil vehicle.

So if the mid-2030's are a "long way" then sure, we're a long way from 100% EV. But as I age a decade doesn't feel as long as it used to.

I agree with you and yeah the world is a long way from fully electric. The world is still technically not fully done with the gas stations. They are still being built.

 

[Cranky Canuck]

I agree with you and yeah the world is a long way from fully electric. The world is still technically not fully done with the gas stations. They are still being built.

Horse stables are still being built too. Doesn't mean we'll be using them as daily drivers. Global EV sales are already at around 20% of all new vehicles sold and that number is climbing at an accelerating rate according to multiple sources including the International Energy Agency (https://www.iea.org/reports/global-ev-outlook-2024/executive-summary). It won't be long until all new cars are electric. The existing fleet will take about a decade longer to switch over (people tend to keep their cars about 13 years) so by the mid-2040's all vehicles on the road will essentially be electric although it might happen sooner once the majority of people realize how much better EVs are and perhaps decide to retire their fossil burners early.

 

[THil08]

Horse stables are still being built too. Doesn't mean we'll be using them as daily drivers. Global EV sales are already at around 20% of all new vehicles sold and that number is climbing at an accelerating rate according to multiple sources including the International Energy Agency (https://www.iea.org/reports/global-ev-outlook-2024/executive-summary). It won't be long until all new cars are electric. The existing fleet will take about a decade longer to switch over (people tend to keep their cars about 13 years) so by the mid-2040's all vehicles on the road will essentially be electric although it might happen sooner once the majority of people realize how much better EVs are and perhaps decide to retire their fossil burners early.

Well wait till people hear about how hard it is to get rid of electric cars. One because of resale value and two because of the batteries sure theres ways to do it but its expensive. I work in the automotive industry. Hydrogen should be the main focus one because a gas car can be converted to it with very simple tweaks. Two you can drink the pure water that comes out the tail pipe.

 

[Cranky Canuck]

Well wait till people hear about how hard it is to get rid of electric cars. One because of resale value and two because of the batteries sure theres ways to do it but its expensive. I work in the automotive industry. Hydrogen should be the main focus one because a gas car can be converted to it with very simple tweaks. Two you can drink the pure water that comes out the tail pipe.

Hydrogen is a non-starter for a number of reasons not least of which is that it is a horrendously inefficient use of energy and that's without getting into all the technological limitations like needing to replace they hydrogen tanks every 8 years. Hydrogen is a fossil fuel pretending to be a very crappy battery.

I've been driving EVs for the better part of a decade now. I bought my first EV used and sold it to its third owner (it's still going strong!). The batteries typically outlast the vehicle and are valuable for second-life applications like stationary storage and even for recycling they contain valuable minerals so there is healthy demand for them. "Getting rid" of electric cars or their batteries isn't and won't be a problem. As for resale, sure some EVs have seen pretty hard depreciation but that certainly isn't true for all or even the majority of them. Some EVs are more valuable used than new because demand is so high for those models. I have personally been offered above MSRP on more than one occaision for my own EV (which I declined of course because I need a car!).

As with all cars regardless of powertrain, low resale says more about that particular model than it does about what powers it. If you think EV resale is bad though you should really check out what's going on with the hydrogen vehicles out west!

 

[THil08]

Hydrogen is a non-starter for a number of reasons not least of which is that it is a horrendously inefficient use of energy and that's without getting into all the technological limitations like needing to replace they hydrogen tanks every 8 years. Hydrogen is a fossil fuel pretending to be a very crappy battery.

I've been driving EVs for the better part of a decade now. I bought my first EV used and sold it to its third owner (it's still going strong!). The batteries typically outlast the vehicle and are valuable for second-life applications like stationary storage and even for recycling they contain valuable minerals so there is healthy demand for them. "Getting rid" of electric cars or their batteries isn't and won't be a problem. As for resale, sure some EVs have seen pretty hard depreciation but that certainly isn't true for all or even the majority of them. Some EVs are more valuable used than new because demand is so high for those models. I have personally been offered above MSRP on more than one occaision for my own EV (which I declined of course because I need a car!).

As with all cars regardless of powertrain, low resale says more about that particular model than it does about what powers it. If you think EV resale is bad though you should really check out what's going on with the hydrogen vehicles out west!

One you said that youve been driving EV’s for over a decade i stopped reading sorry bud or views dont align on this like they do for audio systems.

 

[Cranky Canuck]

One you said that youve been driving EV’s for over a decade i stopped reading sorry bud or views dont align on this like they do for audio systems.

Your loss. You might have learnt something.

 

[THil08]

Your loss. You might have learnt something.

Nope i dont have something to learn. You must be a tree hugger brother. Unlike me, i have plenty of diesel and gas trucks, gas guzzling cars, and then eventually when the scout comes out ill get it. But i wont be selling my trucks. Since unlike you i dont feel like sitting at a Charging station on road trips. I like filling up my vehicle in under 10 minutes. Electric isnt for everyone and trust me you aint changing my mind. eh?

 

[Cranky Canuck]

Nope i dont have something to learn. You must be a tree hugger brother. Unlike me, i have plenty of diesel and gas trucks, gas guzzling cars, and then eventually when the scout comes out ill get it. But i wont be selling my trucks. Since unlike you i dont feel like sitting at a Charging station on road trips. I like filling up my vehicle in under 10 minutes. Electric isnt for everyone and trust me you aint changing my mind. Ay.

Not a "tree hugger" but I do find it amusing that you think I spend a long time sitting at charging stations on road trips. (I also usually spend under 10 minutes charging!) You clearly have a lot to learn about EVs if that's what you actually believe but I won't try to change your mind, you've made it very clear you aren't open to learning.

Have a great evening!

 

[THil08]

Not a "tree hugger" but I do find it amusing that you think I spend a long time sitting at charging stations on road trips. (I also usually spend under 10 minutes charging!) You clearly have a lot to learn about EVs if that's what you actually believe but I won't try to change your mind, you've made it very clear you aren't open to learning.

Have a great evening!

Thank you, you as well have a great rest of your day!

 

[Harris005]

There was a time (not that long ago - and I was born in 1969) when it didn't seem to matter much what your personal politics were - you could literally respect and get along with anyone, no matter which way you (or they) were leaning, and you could find commonalities (like your car or truck, or fishing, or sports for example) that you shared. In fact politics never seemed to come into the discussion - unless you watched the evening news. That was when the Republican party was represented by more than 1 person, and when inanimate objects weren't politicized, and when everything wasn't polarized. It was a better time for our country. So, I say carry on to all the old and new Scout drivers out there.

I have Democrat, Republican and Independent-type friends that share a lot of the same interests as me - even if their personal political leanings are more socially conservative or more fiscally progressive, or vice versa. We all respect each other for who we are. Life would be quite boring if we were all the same - we've seen the dangers of that play out on the global stage. We don't need that anywhere, and we probably don't need to put any labels on a new truck being launched by Scout either. Scout seems to intentionally want to cater to anyone and everyone interested in their vision and mission, and if you are selling a truck like Scout is, you seek truck buyers - no matter which way they put on their socks or buckle their belt.

You can easily make the case that buying a new Scout will be your most patriotic truck purchase ever. That was how I felt when I purchased my American-made R1T and charged it with Solar from my own roof top. Being a patriot and wanting to support independence and freedom are concepts that are neither Democrat nor Republican - they are American. Listen to the teaser video and you will hear that the new Scout is not about splitting people apart - sounds more like the messaging is about bringing people together. This starts with humility, respect and an intelligence about where we come from, how our country was founded, and the ideals that our founders were striving for. Here's to the land of the free, the home of the brave and wherever this new Scout will take us. i don't care who is driving, as long as we have mutual respect.

@R1TVT 2028 You got my vote. Well said sir!

 

[THil08]

@R1TVT 2028 You got my vote. Well said sir!

I agree.