Beautiful previews of Traveler on 37's + winch off-road bumper + roof rack ?

[JoeG]

Big boy Traveler going to look awesome with 37's, winch bumper and roof rack - previewed by these holiday renders. ?

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[BartMan Terra Total EV]

Wonder if Scout could bump up the ground clearance to what the Rivian offers then you wouldn't need such monster tires as I assume they hurt the milage range?

 

[J Alynn]

Seeing that at scale I don’t care for 37’s but go crazy. Seeing the 35’s at the reveal just seemed to hit the sweet spot with being a bit caricature-ish. But slap them on and hit the trails-if they are made for it that will work for those who adventure hard core

 

[pwrofgrayskull]

Big boy Traveler going to look awesome with 37's, winch bumper and roof rack - previewed by these holiday renders. ?

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[OIBScout]

I’ll be the guy on 33s happily toddling along with no broken suspension components on my rig.

 

[OleScout]

Love it, this thing markets itself with such a great design from the team at SM!

 

[CarTechGeek]

And lose about 100 miles of range to "look cool".

 

[pwrofgrayskull]

And lose about 100 miles of range to "look cool".

There are some of us who modify our vehicles for function and actually use them off pavement quite often.

 

[J Alynn]

There are some of us who modify our vehicles for function and actually use them off pavement quite often.

Valid point for each side. When legit it’s valid but central PA has a TON of modded SUV’s and you can tell the majority are just modded for looks but if you work and earn money then spend as you please. They do look good modded

 

[pwrofgrayskull]

Valid point for each side. When legit it’s valid but central PA has a TON of modded SUV’s and you can tell the majority are just modded for looks but if you work and earn money then spend as you please. They do look good modded

Ohhhh okay I’m coming from a very different situation then. I get it. I’ve seen the bro trucks with pristine undercarriages. Around here there isn’t much of that. If it’s modded, there’s usually a reason and it gets used as there’s plenty of opportunity.

However, I’m not going to tell anyone how to spend their money that they’ve earned. To each their own. I don’t care one bit what people spend their own money on regardless of my own preferences. It’s none of my business.

 

[CarTechGeek]

There are some of us who modify our vehicles for function and actually use them off pavement quite often.

Sure, but you don't need 37" tires to off road. Putting much larger tires than necessary on off-road capable vehicles tends to be prevalent regardless of the difficulty of any actual off-roading.

With EV's the price for overdoing the tire size is going to be higher, and much more difficult to live with.

Losing significant MPG, really impacts only your wallet, while losing significant BEV range significantly impacts the usability.

 

[pwrofgrayskull]

Sure, but you don't need 37" tires to off road. Putting much larger tires than necessary on off-road capable vehicles tends to be prevalent regardless of the difficulty of any actual off-roading.

With EV's the price for overdoing the tire size is going to be higher, and much more difficult to live with.

Losing significant MPG, really impacts only your wallet, while losing significant BEV range significantly impacts the usability.

Everyone’s definitions of off-road and capable is different.

I have 37s and a few more inches of ground clearance than the Scouts on our current vehicles. I still use my skid plates on the terrain we traverse and that’s with me avoiding the roughest obstacles and trails as needed because I’m not into damaging my truck or performing trail repairs.

The lower to the terrain I am, the more obstacles and trails I have to avoid…or struggle through. I’m not looking to go backward in off road capability.

 

[CarTechGeek]

Everyone’s definitions of off-road and capable is different.

I have 37s and a few more inches of ground clearance than the Scouts on our current vehicles. I still use my skid plates on the terrain we traverse and that’s with me avoiding the roughest obstacles and trails as needed because I’m not into damaging my truck or performing trail repairs.

The lower to the terrain I am, the more obstacles and trails I have to avoid…or struggle through. I’m not looking to go backward in off road capability.

To each his own, but if I were doing anything extreme enough to require 37"+ tires, I would probably just stick with gas, where the downsides are not as large.

 

[pwrofgrayskull]

To each his own, but if I were doing anything extreme enough to require 37"+ tires, I would probably just stick with gas, where the downsides are not as large.

This is a fair assessment. I agree. I would love to have both vehicles, but it’s not in the budget. That’s also why I have the Harvester reserved and my fingers crossed tightly. Hopefully it’ll work out for my intended use, but if not I’ve already got a setup that works very well for everything I do.

 

[Scoutsie]

I just get real tired of the ever-growing wedge between “stuff for people with giant piles of money to throw at toys” and “people who don’t have that kind of income.” Pardon the rant, but I had one bad year and my financial situation changed dramatically and hasn’t improved because of things outside of my control, like bad health, and it is frustrating to see people cosplaying as simple, wholesome, salt-of-the-earth-folks with like $200K of kit because I absolutely want to be one of those cosplayers and will be going the budget route. ?

If you do this and it’s your jam and you’re not a brotruckman, I got no beef.

 

[Phenix]

I’ll be the guy on 33s happily toddling along with no broken suspension components on my rig.

I agree with this. I have 31's on my Samurai and it is more than enough, but I also understand heavy EV is going to need much larger rims to fit the necessary larger brakes and I rather have more tire than rim. We will have to see what fits under there.

 

[CarTechGeek]

I just get real tired of the ever-growing wedge between “stuff for people with giant piles of money to throw at toys” and “people who don’t have that kind of income.” Pardon the rant, but I had one bad year and my financial situation changed dramatically and hasn’t improved because of things outside of my control, like bad health, and it is frustrating to see people cosplaying as simple, wholesome, salt-of-the-earth-folks with like $200K of kit because I absolutely want to be one of those cosplayers and will be going the budget route. ?

My discussions are largely theoretical because I like understanding technology, so I'm waiting impatiently for Harvester info to dig into (being the most unique element).

The initial Scouts are outside my price range. Everything seems crazy expensive now. Maybe a less expensive future model... After it's been used for a few years by someone else first.

 

[Scoutsie]

My discussions are largely theoretical because I like understanding technology, so I'm waiting impatiently for Harvester info to dig into (being the most unique element).

The initial Scouts are outside my price range. Everything seems crazy expensive now. Maybe a less expensive future model... After it's been used for a few years by someone else first.

Oh, mine are just whiny and grouchy tonight. ? I’m just mad because I have to turn myself, my elderly mom, and my cat out on the corner so I can afford some nice options in a couple of years.

 

[OIBScout]

Understand some of the points made here.

SM shouldn’t be making trucks for the .001% of gonzo Rubicon vertical rock wall rigs that get trailered to the place they get destroyed.

Make a solid and dependable platform that people can mod as they wish.

I’ve taken largely stock Land Rover Disco / Defender vehicles off-highway from Alberta to Guatemala. And driven them back. On 31s and 33s. With pretty conventional and dependable coil sprung set ups, and stock running gear. Winches that almost never saw their synth line pulled out in anger. But we were often on Camel Trophy and Border to Border tier trails.

At Moab, Anza Borego and down in the jungles of Belize. We NEVER encountered a jacked Jeep or Ford Raptor in any of these places that didn’t come on a trailer. We did see Land Cruisers from time to time, and they were like-kitted to our Rovers.

SM is almost precisely where they need to be for 99.5% of future owners with the preview trucks.

The one truck that was supposed to accompany us to Central America that didn’t make it out of the Land Rover Houston parking lot was a jacked Range Rover Classic from Florida on… 37s. That thing was otherwise a total sh*tbox in every way. All tire, no cattle, as they say.

 

[pwrofgrayskull]

I see other folks have had much different experiences than I. I guess I don’t really understand the hate specifically for 37s, but I can see the crowd here has some pretty hard set opinions on them for some reason. Pretty interesting. I don’t really get why anyone cares what size tires someone else wants or uses. If they’re not for you, don’t get them and don’t let them make you angry.

I’ve had mine for several years now. They were the lightest and cheapest I could find - in fact, not much heavier or more expensive than the stock tires they replaced at that time. The 2 inch lift that allowed them to fully stuff when articulated was something like $200 or so. I installed everything myself in order to afford it. If I wasn’t planning to use it off road more and more, I wouldn’t have needed the lift and I wouldn’t have bothered with the different tires. I’ve had a total of zero breakages and zero reliability issues in the past 5+ years. There are occasional 3 to 5 foot or larger rock ledges on certain trails depending where you’re at so extra clearance can be a big benefit. Yes I ran some of the trails on my stock 33s without issues, but I was also on my skids a lot more. It is what it is.