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In the past, they have said production will begin in late 2027, they are now saying deliveries will begin in 2028 - those are not mutually exclusive. Honestly, the first almost already dictated the second. Prioritizing the version with the highest number of reservations is also fairly expected. But prioritizing does not mean it will necessarily be exclusive. All it really means is the most effort will be focused on it - and honestly the EREV will probably take more effort anyway.

In the end - we really don't know how long it will take for our reservation numbers to float to the top of the list and we will be given the opportunity to order and eventually take delivery. At one point, they mentioned that production will start at 50k vehicles per year and ramp up - and there are roughly 200k reservations currently.

As far as we actually know - they could easily still be planning on the same initial production, but just wanting to inventory a few hundred/thousand more vehicles until the initial deliveries. Which honestly just gives them a little more time to get the service side built up.
 
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Scott Keogh, during a meeting with journalists yesterday, said production would start in 2027 with customer deliveries in 2028. He also mentioned 87% of our reservations were for EREV and that we obviously want to get the vehicles people want into their hands. Our customer service teams get asked all the time when EREV is coming since so many people have reserved it, and they have been adjusting the language on our FAQ to try to ease the repeated questions. That's where the word prioritize came from, and it could change again.

The good news is that our platform supports both EREV and BEV on the same vehicle platform built on the same assembly line. We have the flexibility we need to shift in any direction. We still have a lot of runway left ahead of us before we announce the first production models and as always, we will keep you all in the loop.
 
Scott Keogh, during a meeting with journalists yesterday, said production would start in 2027 with customer deliveries in 2028. He also mentioned 87% of our reservations were for EREV and that we obviously want to get the vehicles people want into their hands. Our customer service teams get asked all the time when EREV is coming since so many people have reserved it, and they have been adjusting the language on our FAQ to try to ease the repeated questions. That's where the word prioritize came from, and it could change again.

The good news is that our platform supports both EREV and BEV on the same vehicle platform built on the same assembly line. We have the flexibility we need to shift in any direction. We still have a lot of runway left ahead of us before we announce the first production models and as always, we will keep you all in the loop.
Thanks Jamie!
 
I’m still of the belief that BEV res holders will all convert to BEV. Those with EREV, some will go BEV and sadly I think many will fall off. They desperately want a SCOUT by don’t want to plug in and if a RAM comes first or the Ford they’ll be out the door. If some amazing SUV, even ICE comes to market next year many will jump. True scout lovers will stay either way as will BEV, the rest are all crap shoots.

IMO, if someone is trying to buy an EREV, they actually DO want to plug in, otherwise they'd be going for just any old truck.

As a side note, if EREV is what is coming up first, then 1) thats not a surprise given the preorder distribution, and 2), I wonder if that will change what batteries are being used in the BEV version. Deliveries of the EREV being in 2028, with the BEV sometime later... that might actually be enough time to start getting into some of the newer battery tech (Solid state, but also just progressively better non-solid chemistries).

IMO quite a lot of EREV will convert to BEV. From the time the bulk of reservations were placed to when people start placing orders you're looking at 3-4 years of EV infrastructure development, adoption, and market acceptance meaning a lot of people will decide they don't need the crutch of the EREV. Now add on the following years of sales.

This is definitely a real possibility.

At the time of the reveal, I had a PHEV with 30 miles of range, and a ~27yr old combustion vehicle. Since the reveal, I have purchased a full EV vehicle. If the BEV is coming out in 2029 or 2030... that could change things. Especially as you say, the charging infrastructure is growing rapidly, and that is even more time to get familiar/comfortable with how things are done in EV's (more chance of exposure).

We have our big summer road trip this year, and I'm considering trying to drive the BEV, simply to see how it does, because that might effect what I do for the Scout.
 
IMO, if someone is trying to buy an EREV, they actually DO want to plug in, otherwise they'd be going for just any old truck.

As a side note, if EREV is what is coming up first, then 1) thats not a surprise given the preorder distribution, and 2), I wonder if that will change what batteries are being used in the BEV version. Deliveries of the EREV being in 2028, with the BEV sometime later... that might actually be enough time to start getting into some of the newer battery tech (Solid state, but also just progressively better non-solid chemistries).



This is definitely a real possibility.

At the time of the reveal, I had a PHEV with 30 miles of range, and a ~27yr old combustion vehicle. Since the reveal, I have purchased a full EV vehicle. If the BEV is coming out in 2029 or 2030... that could change things. Especially as you say, the charging infrastructure is growing rapidly, and that is even more time to get familiar/comfortable with how things are done in EV's (more chance of exposure).

We have our big summer road trip this year, and I'm considering trying to drive the BEV, simply to see how it does, because that might effect what I do for the Scout.
If you take the BEV take us along with you please and thank you!
 
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IMO, if someone is trying to buy an EREV, they actually DO want to plug in, otherwise they'd be going for just any old truck.

As a side note, if EREV is what is coming up first, then 1) thats not a surprise given the preorder distribution, and 2), I wonder if that will change what batteries are being used in the BEV version. Deliveries of the EREV being in 2028, with the BEV sometime later... that might actually be enough time to start getting into some of the newer battery tech (Solid state, but also just progressively better non-solid chemistries).



This is definitely a real possibility.

At the time of the reveal, I had a PHEV with 30 miles of range, and a ~27yr old combustion vehicle. Since the reveal, I have purchased a full EV vehicle. If the BEV is coming out in 2029 or 2030... that could change things. Especially as you say, the charging infrastructure is growing rapidly, and that is even more time to get familiar/comfortable with how things are done in EV's (more chance of exposure).

We have our big summer road trip this year, and I'm considering trying to drive the BEV, simply to see how it does, because that might effect what I do for the Scout.
I would still disagree a bit. I think there are a lot of EREV res holders who want a cool Scout and just accept EREV and will likely never use the electric part to the extent it’s designed for. Look at the pages of discussion asking about gas and go. If a great ICE truck/SUV comes out tomorrow I think a ton of EREV res holders would bail. I think it’s a means to an end to get a Scout. If you polled all EREV res holders and asked if they prefer a V-6 with 320 mile range I bet a HUGE majority would say yes. No doubt in my mind.
 
Scott Keogh, during a meeting with journalists yesterday, said production would start in 2027 with customer deliveries in 2028. He also mentioned 87% of our reservations were for EREV and that we obviously want to get the vehicles people want into their hands. Our customer service teams get asked all the time when EREV is coming since so many people have reserved it, and they have been adjusting the language on our FAQ to try to ease the repeated questions. That's where the word prioritize came from, and it could change again.

The good news is that our platform supports both EREV and BEV on the same vehicle platform built on the same assembly line. We have the flexibility we need to shift in any direction. We still have a lot of runway left ahead of us before we announce the first production models and as always, we will keep you all in the loop.
There's hope yet all! That's great to hear on the shift and ability to adapt. In reading this, on-demand production based off reservations could be a likelihood which is good for those reservation holders when the time comes to adjust their choice. Still time to see how it goes!
 
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Okay I’m going to stop you all right there. There’s a lot of 2029 and 2030 dates being thrown about and I’m sorry I just don’t see it. I just can’t imagine them having a full model year of only Traveler Harvesters. Call it women’s intuition or whatever you want to, but I just think they are going to go faster than you all are anticipating.
I can. As of yesterday Scout has 160K reservations of which 80% are EREV and the split of Traveler to Terra is 75% to 25%.(source). For a brand new company starting production at a brand new factory in an environment with limited resources, it makes sense to start with the top of the demand bell curve. Scout has already made that decision when it comes to prioritizing Traveler given 3/4 of customers reserved one, I don't see why they wouldn't make the same decision for power train given over 3/4 of customers want EREV. Plus there's Manager Magazin who claimed exactly that. To me this is all clear, but what isn't clear is the actual target production date. I'm going to once again be pragmatic and say 2030 before there's a Scout Traveler BEV hopefully in my driveway.
 
Scott Keogh, during a meeting with journalists yesterday, said production would start in 2027 with customer deliveries in 2028. He also mentioned 87% of our reservations were for EREV and that we obviously want to get the vehicles people want into their hands. Our customer service teams get asked all the time when EREV is coming since so many people have reserved it, and they have been adjusting the language on our FAQ to try to ease the repeated questions. That's where the word prioritize came from, and it could change again.

The good news is that our platform supports both EREV and BEV on the same vehicle platform built on the same assembly line. We have the flexibility we need to shift in any direction. We still have a lot of runway left ahead of us before we announce the first production models and as always, we will keep you all in the loop.
You might want to reach out to Forbes because they have him quoted as saying..

"The first production vehicles are expected to roll off the line in 2028 in the form of the Traveler SUV, Keogh revealed."

 
I can. As of yesterday Scout has 160K reservations of which 80% are EREV and the split of Traveler to Terra is 75% to 25%.(source). For a brand new company starting production at a brand new factory in an environment with limited resources, it makes sense to start with the top of the demand bell curve. Scout has already made that decision when it comes to prioritizing Traveler given 3/4 of customers reserved one, I don't see why they wouldn't make the same decision for power train given over 3/4 of customers want EREV. Plus there's Manager Magazin who claimed exactly that. To me this is all clear, but what isn't clear is the actual target production date. I'm going to once again be pragmatic and say 2030 before there's a Scout Traveler BEV hopefully in my driveway.
When did you make your reservation?
 
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I would still disagree a bit. I think there are a lot of EREV res holders who want a cool Scout and just accept EREV and will likely never use the electric part to the extent it’s designed for. Look at the pages of discussion asking about gas and go. If a great ICE truck/SUV comes out tomorrow I think a ton of EREV res holders would bail. I think it’s a means to an end to get a Scout. If you polled all EREV res holders and asked if they prefer a V-6 with 320 mile range I bet a HUGE majority would say yes. No doubt in my mind.
Maybe - but I am definitely not one who would buy an ICE-only Scout.
My wife and I have been driving hybrids for 11 years and the last two have been PHEV. If they had been EREV I would be willing to wait longer for a Scout and possibly switch to BEV if there was closer to a 500 mile range version. Since that is not happening in the near (3 year) future I'm sticking with the EREV Scout.
 
I want an EREV as well, but I recognize much (not all) of the population is ignorant of EV stuff.
Agreed. I could be wrong, but I’m very much convinced a good chunk of the population would really enjoy an EV if they just gave it a chance. I think there are just a lot of people that have zero interest due to a very wide variety of reasons. It’s not as cut and dry as a lot of people boil it down to.

I will admit that the EVs I am familiar with (they are enjoyable to ride in, drive and live with daily)…while they are quite comfortable and very FUN to drive, they aren’t as visceral as a stick shift and a V8. Unfortunately though, the automatic transmissions these days have already removed a good bit of thrill from the average vehicle anyway. So here we are.

Now, with all of that said I want the Harvester because it fits my life better and it gives me the perks of an EV with the ability to keep on doing the things I already do. I just think there are people out there who could benefit personally if they opened up to an EV.
 
I would still disagree a bit. I think there are a lot of EREV res holders who want a cool Scout and just accept EREV and will likely never use the electric part to the extent it’s designed for. Look at the pages of discussion asking about gas and go. If a great ICE truck/SUV comes out tomorrow I think a ton of EREV res holders would bail. I think it’s a means to an end to get a Scout. If you polled all EREV res holders and asked if they prefer a V-6 with 320 mile range I bet a HUGE majority would say yes. No doubt in my mind.
I’ll fully admit I’m not the average Scout reservation holder. I drive a gas drinking fire breathing V8, and I love it. Admittedly I wouldn’t consider a Scout without the Harvester package (I’ve probably beat those points to death). I’m excited about a 500ish mile range of an SUV or Truck on 35” off road tires (my 2020 Raptor would go 500 miles easily on a tank while averaging 75mph, and sometimes I miss that).

Reserving a Harvester doesn’t mean I’m ignorant to some EV advantages that others have said. And yes, I’ve beaten the gas and go horse to death. I just don’t understand why being excited about a Harvester equipped Scout is a bad thing? Hell, I’m still flip flopping between Terra and Traveler. It’s the Harvester that’s non negotiable.

And for the record- I reserved my scout on reveal day.
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I’ll fully admit I’m not the average Scout reservation holder. I drive a gas drinking fire breathing V8, and I love it. Admittedly I wouldn’t consider a Scout without the Harvester package (I’ve probably beat those points to death). I’m excited about a 500ish mile range of an SUV or Truck on 35” off road tires (my 2020 Raptor would go 500 miles easily on a tank while averaging 75mph, and sometimes I miss that).

Reserving a Harvester doesn’t mean I’m ignorant to some EV advantages that others have said. And yes, I’ve beaten the gas and go horse to death. I just don’t understand why being excited about a Harvester equipped Scout is a bad thing? Hell, I’m still flip flopping between Terra and Traveler. It’s the Harvester that’s non negotiable.

And for the record- I reserved my scout on reveal day.
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All the power to you. My issue is not with folks like you. Its just short sighted to launch a rebranded off road vehicle as an electric vehicle with Off-Road prowess that in some ways is more capable then a Riv. Then just because the current administration broke up with Elon and took away the tax credit all while influencing his cult to hate EVs SM caves and puts the BEVs in last place. If they just released them first or even together the Harvester buyers would have been fine waiting because thats what they expected.
 
One more thought about EREV reservation quantities.

A nearly mandatory requirement for getting an EV is to have some sort of charging capabilities at home. (You can obv get by with public only charging, but that takes away so much of the benefits that an EV provides).

It could be reasonable to assume that some subset of the people reserving EREVs are doing so with a forward looking mindset. Perhaps they cannot charge at home right now. Maybe they live in an apartment or are renting a home where the landlord was not ok with having an L2 charger installed...
But a car purchase is a big deal, and if they plan to keep their Scout for a long time then in the future they could be in a position to charge their car at home, and until then they could enjoy an essentially gas only powered Scout.
 
One more thought about EREV reservation quantities.

A nearly mandatory requirement for getting an EV is to have some sort of charging capabilities at home. (You can obv get by with public only charging, but that takes away so much of the benefits that an EV provides).

It could be reasonable to assume that some subset of the people reserving EREVs are doing so with a forward looking mindset. Perhaps they cannot charge at home right now. Maybe they live in an apartment or are renting a home where the landlord was not ok with having an L2 charger installed...
But a car purchase is a big deal, and if they plan to keep their Scout for a long time then in the future they could be in a position to charge their car at home, and until then they could enjoy an essentially gas only powered Scout.
Very sound POV. And in support I’d like to hear people speak to that who are in that similar situation.
 
I'll add that I am not in that situation - I daily an EV and charge at home. But I have the EREV reserved because I have had far more negative experiences charging publicly than positive ones. Perhaps that's uncommon, or maybe it's just due to me living in Ohio, but I have seen more broken chargers than functional ones in the 3 years I have taken this car far from home (round trip greater than its max range of 190 miles).

I know many people in this forum have had very long road trips and excellent experiences charging, but I just don't have faith in Ohio putting together any sort of reasonable infrastructure.

I also want to tow my racecar to track days which I have had extended discussions about in various towing threads, and I just think the EREV is going to make that a lot easier for me. Many track day destinations (including all of my favorite ones nearby) don't have anywhere to charge.
 
I'll add that I am not in that situation - I daily an EV and charge at home. But I have the EREV reserved because I have had far more negative experiences charging publicly than positive ones. Perhaps that's uncommon, or maybe it's just due to me living in Ohio, but I have seen more broken chargers than functional ones in the 3 years I have taken this car far from home (round trip greater than its max range of 190 miles).

I know many people in this forum have had very long road trips and excellent experiences charging, but I just don't have faith in Ohio putting together any sort of reasonable infrastructure.

I also want to tow my racecar to track days which I have had extended discussions about in various towing threads, and I just think the EREV is going to make that a lot easier for me. Many track day destinations (including all of my favorite ones nearby) don't have anywhere to charge.

But won't your car and trailer be over 500 pound tongue weight?