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  1. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    🤔 back at ya
  2. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    You actually just walked right into the point I’ve been making. You can’t have it both ways. If, as you admit, they are using the VW parts bin for the Harvester engine, and they are leveraging the massive corporate backing for components, then the "clean slate startup" defense for high pricing...
  3. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    That is a fair distinction regarding the governance structure, and I agree that Scout is designed to have cultural independence to avoid the bureaucracy that plagues legacy auto. However, we need to be careful not to conflate "Operational Independence" with "Supply Chain Isolation." While Scout...
  4. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    You picked the absolute worst example to make your point. The Lamborghini Urus—their best-selling vehicle—literally shares the MLB Evo platform with the Volkswagen Touareg, Audi Q7, and Porsche Cayenne. They use the same chassis architecture, the same suspension hardpoints, and variations of the...
  5. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    I have to laugh at the NADA accusation. I have been railing against dealer markups and the "middleman tax" the entire time in this thread. Accusing me of working for the dealer lobby is like accusing a vegan of working for a steakhouse. If I worked for NADA, I’d be arguing for franchise laws to...
  6. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    You nailed a huge part of the problem. bonus depreciation absolutely distort the market by incentivizing business owners to buy the most expensive "heavy" vehicle they can find to lower their tax bill. It turns the truck from a tool into a financial instrument. But that actually reinforces my...
  7. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    I think we need to distinguish between name-calling and describing a viewpoint. When I used the word "defeatist," I wasn't attacking anyone's character; I was referring to the specific willingness to shrug and accept that "this is just how things are now." That isn't an insult; it’s an...
  8. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    Thanks, Speedrye. You just visualized exactly what I’ve been trying to explain for days. That Red Line (F-150) is the "Gentrification of Utility" in a single image. And to anticipate the counter-argument: Yes, all prices ticked up post-COVID (you can see the Purple and Green lines hook up at...
  9. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    I’ll add "Fix National Economy" to the top of my checklist for tomorrow morning. But jokes aside, that graph really was the most important thing posted in this thread. It solidifies that the "market" isn't demanding $60k trucks—it is being crushed by them. We can either accept the defeatist view...
  10. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    I actually have to thank you for posting that graph because it proves my central thesis better than I ever could. Look closely at that green line—purchasing power has been effectively flat since 1978. Now, if you were to overlay a trend line for "Average Pickup Truck Price" on that same chart...
  11. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    If we have a disconnect, I think it lies in the definition of "luxury." You say $60,000 isn't luxury pricing, but I think that statement perfectly illustrates how effectively the auto industry has shifted the goalposts. The median household income in the US is roughly $75,000. When a vehicle...
  12. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    I appreciate you sticking with the theme by bringing up the "time-space continuum," but I think your business physics are slightly off regarding the Rivian comparison. You are conflating the constraints of a standalone startup with the capabilities of a global giant. Rivian had to launch with a...
  13. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    Vecna...?
  14. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    That’s a new one—I’ll take the "AI" comment as a compliment on my grammar. As I mentioned to someone else earlier, my entire career is built on checklists, structured flows, and precise communication. It’s a hard habit to break, even when I’m just typing on a forum. I tend to write in structured...
  15. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    I respect your decision to disengage, but I do need to correct one factual error regarding the Scout representative's comments. Jamie stated the target is "under $60,000," not that a lower price is impossible. But honestly—so what if they did say they couldn't hit it? Since when is the...
  16. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    You make a very strong point about the fixed cost of production. You are absolutely right that the chassis, frame, battery, and motors represent the bulk of the manufacturing cost, so whether the seats are cloth or leather doesn't radically change the price of the steel frame itself. However, I...
  17. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    Beep boop 🤖 In all seriousness, I just write this way because it’s clearer. It saves everyone time if the argument is actually organized rather than just a stream of consciousness. Given my profession, you might assume it fits.
  18. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    I don't doubt your skills in the Titan—a good driver in a 2WD will go further than a bad driver in a Rubicon every time. Driver mod is always the most important mod. But regarding your question on why I argue for the hardware (Body-on-frame, Solid Axle, Lockers): 1. Durability vs. Mobility...
  19. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    I think the Honda Pilot comparison actually illustrates exactly the gap I am talking about. 1. The "Crossover" vs. "Utility" Error You are right—there are plenty of SUVs under $45k. But a Honda Pilot is a unibody family hauler. It is excellent for school runs, but it is mechanically closer to...
  20. tomgillotti

    Are you OK with Scout vehicles starting under $60K?

    You hit on exactly why I hesitated (and didn't actually vote). The danger with a poll like this is that it generates "False Positive" data. You voted "Yes" because you want a range of options (which is reasonable), but corporate is likely to read that "Yes" as "The market accepts a $59,900...
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