How would you build your Scout?

[cyure]

My build is

Thanks for the confirmation. That fabric top is a big concern of mine. Might be great for 5 years or so but I just can't see how it would hold up like a glass or metal roof over the long haul or how it would manage road noise and weather insulation for that matter. I'm also concerned about the repair/replacement costs down the road. It looks really good though! So tempting. Who knows, maybe they have found a wonder material. Constant garaging might be the trick for future cabana owners. Did you get a look at the material itself? Did it appear sturdy?

It’s appears sturdy to me and I would imagine they are going to do everything they can to make sure it’s as reliable and leakproof as possible. My Scout will be garaged so I’m not as concerned. I’m trying to find a Jeep Recon with the one touch roof to test drive. An EV with an open top. There’s one on the way to the dealer near me. Let’s see if they actually call me when it gets there.

 

[Broverlander]

Interior:

• Brick red/terracotta with a panoramic glass roof.
• Captains chairs. No bench for me. The bench sounds cool, but I doubt I'd every really use it and I'm concerned about comfort.

Exterior:

• Pacific Mist or army green. Maybe Silo Green is already army green? I just haven't been able to get to see the concepts yet. Come back to the Midwest, Scout!
• 35" KO3 with a 20" all black wheel. Scout doesn't have those yet. They have a 22" and 18", but haven't seen a 20". Maybe I missed it? I really like a 22" rim on the 35" tire (Pacific Mist concept) but that 22" wheel has too much metal for my taste and I doubt Scout is going to redesign their 22" offering.
• Winch (like their trail ready concept). I might not need it for off-roading, but I'd use it frequently to help others out of the ditch during the winter.
• Spare tire carrier. This really has me going back and forth. I don't love the swing-out gate. It makes it a pain to access the back in tight quarters. But as much as I love Mountainside, I don't like the look of the Traveler without the spare tire. Doesn't look rugged enough for me. Plus I need a spare and at 35", it won't fit anywhere else. Having been stuck roadside in my R1T without a spare and fix-a-flat not working (tire blew from a pothole), and having the mechanical ability to change my own tire, I think it's a must no matter the pain. I'll just use the frunk mostly anyway.

Misc.

• Phone/watch as a key. I'd really struggle going back to a physical key.
• Level II+ autonomy that I think Jamie has said would be available. But please, Scout. Please make it more than just highways. Give me some state highways and County roads. I understand there may be some weird entrances and exits, but it's Level II so I'm supposed to be paying attention anyway even though it's hands off!
• WiFi Hotspot for the family! I'll pay monthly/yearly for it!!!

Scout, this is my order. When can I take delivery?

 

[cyure]

Interior:

• Brick red/terracotta with a panoramic glass roof.
• Captains chairs. No bench for me. The bench sounds cool, but I doubt I'd every really use it and I'm concerned about comfort.

Exterior:

• Pacific Mist or army green. Maybe Silo Green is already army green? I just haven't been able to get to see the concepts yet. Come back to the Midwest, Scout!
• 35" KO3 with a 20" all black wheel. Scout doesn't have those yet. They have a 22" and 18", but haven't seen a 20". Maybe I missed it? I really like a 22" rim on the 35" tire (Pacific Mist concept) but that 22" wheel has too much metal for my taste and I doubt Scout is going to redesign their 22" offering.
• Winch (like their trail ready concept). I might not need it for off-roading, but I'd use it frequently to help others out of the ditch during the winter.
• Spare tire carrier. This really has me going back and forth. I don't love the swing-out gate. It makes it a pain to access the back in tight quarters. But as much as I love Mountainside, I don't like the look of the Traveler without the spare tire. Doesn't look rugged enough for me. Plus I need a spare and at 35", it won't fit anywhere else. Having been stuck roadside in my R1T without a spare and fix-a-flat not working (tire blew from a pothole), and having the mechanical ability to change my own tire, I think it's a must no matter the pain. I'll just use the frunk mostly anyway.

Misc.

• Phone/watch as a key. I'd really struggle going back to a physical key.
• Level II+ autonomy that I think Jamie has said would be available. But please, Scout. Please make it more than just highways. Give me some state highways and County roads. I understand there may be some weird entrances and exists, but it's Level II so I'm supposed to be paying attention anyway even though it's hands off!
• WiFi Hotspot for the family! I'll pay monthly/yearly for it!!!

Scout, this is my order. When can I take delivery?

Love it!

 

[Jasco]

My build would focus on everything I need and nothing I don't in order to get into the backcountry of Colorado and surrounding outdoors. This includes moderate 4x4 routes over forest and mining roads, nothing extreme, and overlanding adventures lasting 2-3 days. I'm happy to negotiate the occasional large obstacle on the trail but even more happy to find an alternate route around it. My second priority is range. I'm not in the EREV camp because I have no plans or need to tow long disatnace or haul heavy trailers. My towing requirement is limited to a light trailer for hauling trees and branches to a colleciton site and occasionally helping someone move across town. My final requirement is a decent level of comfort.

Here is how I would configure mine based on the above:

• Model: Traveler. I'd like to be a truck guy but I've never had the use case.
• Drivetrain: BEV. I'm assuming an 800 volt architecture and a 10-80% in 20 minutes charge curve. My wife and I no longer do canon ball runs. We like our rest stops and have no issue waiting on a charge. Our BEV is generally at or close to our target by the time we amble back to the vehicle anyways. EREV will be a great/only solution for many people and I'm glad Scout is pursuing it, but BEV would honestly work for most.
• Color: whatever appeals most to me and my wife at release that doesn't have a significant upcharge. I would prefer a ligher color and like the idea of a different color roof. Hopefully there will be some color options in the free and low up charge color tiers.
• Roof: glass, especially if Scout provides a shading mechanism and if there is no upcharge. Otherwise metal. Cabana looks great but I have a 3' retracting sun roof on my Montero that gets used only once or twice a year. I've tried it open when on the trail but dust becomes a problem. I typically use it as a glass roof during the winter and with the glass roof covered during the summer. I would change my mind to cabana in a heart beat if I lived by the coast again and had a garage at my awesome beach house (dreaming is fun).
• Rack or rails: rails. I love the lightbar but that rack is huge and will be another significant factor in range reduction. I will opt for rails and add my own cross bars to use as needed. There is so much space in this vehicle for two people that there's no need for rooftop storage. Also at 6' 5" high, most people will need to do some precarious perching on tires just to access that area. Or perhaps pack a ladder.
• Wheels: 18" aero. I could care less about how my wheels look and I know Scout will not offer an ugly wheel option. It's not in their DNA. In a perfect world they would offer a lightweight, old school steely look alike option. I'll not be airing down to 10 PSI so beadlocks are a no go.
• Tires: 33" tall AT's is all that's needed for my use case. 35" is excessive even though they look really good. I'm hoping the 33's don't look off in the wheel well, but if they do, oh well. I just don't need 35's. I get where I need to go with my Montero on 31's with stock suspension and light armor. I can't imagine what opens up with 33's and 11" of ground clearance. 33's save weight, will offer better range and will be less expensive to replace over time. The Scouts will be heavy so tire life will surely suffer.
• Tire carrier: Oh man this will be a difficult decision. If a 33" tire fits under the vehicle (BEV could have space) then I will likely go without. I love the look but the carrier has several disadvantages for me. Weight and length in particular. Both will impact range significantly. I want as close to 350 miles as I can get. The tire carrier and 35's will lop a big chunk off that number. The other downside is access to the back of the vehicle and maybe the ability to fit in my garage. I get in and out of the Montero repeately when in the back country and swinging a carrier out of the way every time will get annoying. I also agree with @SpaceEVDriver that access to the back while charging will be an issue. Did I mention how much I like how the carrier looks? Oh well again. I'm not thrilled with the current treatment of the tailgate with the carrier removed. Seems plasticky to me and doesn't fit with the beauty of the rest of the vehicle. I hope that design is not final.
• Rock rails: Yes. But they need to serve the purpose and not just look cool. They need to be steppable (not a full step width) and have a kick out towards the rear tires for proper protection. I'm guessing replacement Traveler doors will be expensive so I'd like to avoid those costs.
• Armor: Yes. I'm hoping adequate armor is provided without upcharge given the universal need to protect the battery. That just makes sense. Road debris can be just as damaging as the edge of a rock. I'll pay for the approach and departure armor though if not included.
• Suspension: Coils with dampers tailored towards offroad use. I don't need air suspension and feel air fits the Mountainside build more closely. 11" of ground clearnace (on 33's) is plenty of clearance for me and I really dislike the stiff ride of rasied air suspension anyways. I don't see there being three options for suspension: light duty, offroad, and air. These are heavy vehicles so they will all need a strong suspension setup. I do see the potential for dampening options though. I'll have to wait and see how that plays out because comfort is key.
• Lockers: Rear yes. I'll probably opt out of a front locker for my use case. The Scouts will hopefully come with a dialed in traction control system (that can be disabled when needed).
• Disconnectable sway bar: Yes. My back and neck will not let me choose otherwise.
• Bumpers: metal preferably but will opt for plastic if available with adequate approach and departure armor.
• Winch: no. I'll call a recovery specialist if a winch is required and hopefully use better judgement for trail selection in the first place.
• Recovery points; absolutely, yes. Mild recoveries are common in the back country. Plus what will I do with my shackles otherwise.
• Seating: Bucket seats with a console. Bench seating is cool but choosing it would give up too much utility. My dog rides in the second row; otherwise, he likes to help drive.
• Interior, light colored fixtures. I have no doubt Scout will offer beautiful options at all price ranges. Again design is in their DNA. I'm so confident in their ability to pull off a fantastic interior at the base or low up charge level that I'm literally banking on it. I love the wood and leather (not the metal) but ultimately want a good looking interior that is easy to maintain.
• Interior comfort: heated seats, and if included or offered for a low up charge, a heated steering wheel. I don't need much else that doesn't alraeady come with a base model. I'm relying on the Scout team here assuming they won't pull a Slate and nickel and dime everything.
• Compass: would be a fun addition and might be a luxury option for me.

That's it, that's my config. I'm probably forgetting something but these are my essentials.

 

[cyure]

My build would focus on everything I need and nothing I don't in order to get into the backcountry of Colorado and surrounding outdoors. This includes moderate 4x4 routes over forest and mining roads, nothing extreme, and overlanding adventures lasting 2-3 days. I'm happy to negotiate the occasional large obstacle on the trail but even more happy to find an alternate route around it. My second priority is range. I'm not in the EREV camp because I have no plans or need to tow long disatnace or haul heavy trailers. My towing requirement is limited to a light trailer for hauling trees and branches to a colleciton site and occasionally helping someone move across town. My final requirement is a decent level of comfort.

Here is how I would configure mine based on the above:

• Model: Traveler. I'd like to be a truck guy but I've never had the use case.
• Drivetrain: BEV. I'm assuming an 800 volt architecture and a 10-80% in 20 minutes charge curve. My wife and I no longer do canon ball runs. We like our rest stops and have no issue waiting on a charge. Our BEV is generally at or close to our target by the time we amble back to the vehicle anyways. EREV will be a great/only solution for many people and I'm glad Scout is pursuing it, but BEV would honestly work for most.
• Color: whatever appeals most to me and my wife at release that doesn't have a significant upcharge. I would prefer a ligher color and like the idea of a different color roof. Hopefully there will be some color options in the free and low up charge color tiers.
• Roof: glass, especially if Scout provides a shading mechanism and if there is no upcharge. Otherwise metal. Cabana looks great but I have a 3' retracting sun roof on my Montero that gets used only once or twice a year. I've tried it open when on the trail but dust becomes a problem. I typically use it as a glass roof during the winter and with the glass roof covered during the summer. I would change my mind to cabana in a heart beat if I lived by the coast again and had a garage at my awesome beach house (dreaming is fun).
• Rack or rails: rails. I love the lightbar but that rack is huge and will be another significant factor in range reduction. I will opt for rails and add my own cross bars to use as needed. There is so much space in this vehicle for two people that there's no need for rooftop storage. Also at 6' 5" high, most people will need to do some precarious perching on tires just to access that area. Or perhaps pack a ladder.
• Wheels: 18" aero. I could care less about how my wheels look and I know Scout will not offer an ugly wheel option. It's not in their DNA. In a perfect world they would offer a lightweight, old school steely look alike option. I'll not be airing down to 10 PSI so beadlocks are a no go.
• Tires: 33" tall AT's is all that's needed for my use case. 35" is excessive even though they look really good. I'm hoping the 33's don't look off in the wheel well, but if they do, oh well. I just don't need 35's. I get where I need to go with my Montero on 31's with stock suspension and light armor. I can't imagine what opens up with 33's and 11" of ground clearance. 33's save weight, will offer better range and will be less expensive to replace over time. The Scouts will be heavy so tire life will surely suffer.
• Tire carrier: Oh man this will be a difficult decision. If a 33" tire fits under the vehicle (BEV could have space) then I will likely go without. I love the look but the carrier has several disadvantages for me. Weight and length in particular. Both will impact range significantly. I want as close to 350 miles as I can get. The tire carrier and 35's will lop a big chunk off that number. The other downside is access to the back of the vehicle and maybe the ability to fit in my garage. I get in and out of the Montero repeately when in the back country and swinging a carrier out of the way every time will get annoying. I also agree with @SpaceEVDriver that access to the back while charging will be an issue. Did I mention how much I like how the carrier looks? Oh well again. I'm not thrilled with the current treatment of the tailgate with the carrier removed. Seems plasticky to me and doesn't fit with the beauty of the rest of the vehicle. I hope that design is not final.
• Rock rails: Yes. But they need to serve the purpose and not just look cool. They need to be steppable (not a full step width) and have a kick out towards the rear tires for proper protection. I'm guessing replacement Traveler doors will be expensive so I'd like to avoid those costs.
• Armor: Yes. I'm hoping adequate armor is provided without upcharge given the universal need to protect the battery. That just makes sense. Road debris can be just as damaging as the edge of a rock. I'll pay for the approach and departure armor though if not included.
• Suspension: Coils with dampers tailored towards offroad use. I don't need air suspension and feel air fits the Mountainside build more closely. 11" of ground clearnace (on 33's) is plenty of clearance for me and I really dislike the stiff ride of rasied air suspension anyways. I don't see there being three options for suspension: light duty, offroad, and air. These are heavy vehicles so they will all need a strong suspension setup. I do see the potential for dampening options though. I'll have to wait and see how that plays out because comfort is key.
• Lockers: Rear yes. I'll probably opt out of a front locker for my use case. The Scouts will hopefully come with a dialed in traction control system (that can be disabled when needed).
• Disconnectable sway bar: Yes. My back and neck will not let me choose otherwise.
• Bumpers: metal preferably but will opt for plastic if available with adequate approach and departure armor.
• Winch: no. I'll call a recovery specialist if a winch is required and hopefully use better judgement for trail selection in the first place.
• Recovery points; absolutely, yes. Mild recoveries are common in the back country. Plus what will I do with my shackles otherwise.
• Seating: Bucket seats with a console. Bench seating is cool but choosing it would give up too much utility. My dog rides in the second row; otherwise, he likes to help drive.
• Interior, light colored fixtures. I have no doubt Scout will offer beautiful options at all price ranges. Again design is in their DNA. I'm so confident in their ability to pull off a fantastic interior at the base or low up charge level that I'm literally banking on it. I love the wood and leather (not the metal) but ultimately want a good looking interior that is easy to maintain.
• Interior comfort: heated seats, and if included or offered for a low up charge, a heated steering wheel. I don't need much else that doesn't alraeady come with a base model. I'm relying on the Scout team here assuming they won't pull a Slate and nickel and dime everything.
• Compass: would be a fun addition and might be a luxury option for me.

That's it, that's my config. I'm probably forgetting something but these are my essentials.

I love that everyone is getting so detailed. I will be curious when we place our orders how closely we align with our initial wants.

 

[Jasco]

I asked Gemini to make a configurator image for me. I'm really hoping Scout comes in under the pricing Gemini suggests. Not my colors or interior preference but still fun.

 

[cyure]

I asked Gemini to make a configurator image for me. I'm really hoping Scout comes in under the pricing Gemini suggests. Not my colors or interior preference but still fun.

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I should hope so! It’s Alison really hard to get Gemini to get the grills right. It insists on centering the word Scout.

 

[J Alynn]

Do you recall what the top of the cabana roof looks like when closed (from the outside)? Is the fabric exposed to the elements or is there a more sturdy cover that retracts with the fabric?

Pics from reveal

 

[J Alynn]

My build is

Thanks for the confirmation. That fabric top is a big concern of mine. Might be great for 5 years or so but I just can't see how it would hold up like a glass or metal roof over the long haul or how it would manage road noise and weather insulation for that matter. I'm also concerned about the repair/replacement costs down the road. It looks really good though! So tempting. Who knows, maybe they have found a wonder material. Constant garaging might be the trick for future cabana owners. Did you get a look at the material itself? Did it appear sturdy?

To date, each time I’ve seen them in person there’s no way to reach to touch it without likely being tasered

 

[J Alynn]

I asked Gemini to make a configurator image for me. I'm really hoping Scout comes in under the pricing Gemini suggests. Not my colors or interior preference but still fun.

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Based on Gemini, EVERYONE should be thrilled with the final sales price

 

[Jasco]

To date, each time I’ve seen them in person there’s no way to reach to touch it without likely being tasered

I'm thinking someone should take a taser for the team! Next time its in Denver... maybe?