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I purchased an EV yesterday (ok, only a golf cart). Why? AC motor has more speed and torque than gas. AC motor has less maintenance than gas. AC motor is quieter than gas. Simply put - even with current battery tech - electric golf cart is better than gas in most ways (charging is slower than adding gas - which IS an issue with fleet use yet).
Laws forcing people into EV's helped with some early adoption - but created a LOT of resentment. Making a superior product is the ultimate solution for adoption. We are not quite there, but every month, every year, we are getting closer and closer. Right now, we are only there for the for a majority of people the majority of time.
Laws forcing people into EV's helped with some early adoption - but created a LOT of resentment. Making a superior product is the ultimate solution for adoption. We are not quite there, but every month, every year, we are getting closer and closer. Right now, we are only there for the for a majority of people the majority of time.
I'm sitting in a boring meeting and want to stir the pot a bit......
The reason that the tow rating is lower for the Harvester is because the engine will be behind the rear axle. This causes it to directly decrease the tow rating. Several people have complained about the lower tow rating for the Harvester. Would those people be willing to lose the frunk in order to restore full towing capacity?
For the amount of people coming from ICEV I would assume they might say yes, until they get to experience the benefits of a Frunk
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No doubt frunks are convenient. I'm looking forward to having a larger one (dual-motor Tesla frunks are quite small). But based on the amount of wailing about the lower Harvester tow rating, I was just curious what people thought about moving the engine up front.
I think the thing about most people’s complaints with towing is very similar to why I assume that they would say that they’d be willing to give up the Frunk. They think they need more than they really do. I’m not discrediting people that do genuinely need to tow heavier items on a more regular basis but most people think they will end realistically won’t so they want to be prepared for that 1%. When the lightning returns it most likely will not have a Frunk for a larger V6 engine similarly to the ram, but I feel if people are coming from this current existing lightning to that lightning a lot of them might genuinely miss having a Frunk, however, since Ford is now charging for that on the Mustang, I doubt they’ll care
Don’t take away my frunk. I’m really looking forward to having one! Especially since I’m getting the tire carrier. Much easier for smaller trips just to throw everything in the frunk.
Just not sure - I need to experience a real frunk to know if I'd give it up... (rented an xc40 recharge and it was too small to be of use to me...
My other reason for saying no is it would be a complete redesign of the Harvester. I mean I’m BEV so I don’t have a dog in this fight as they say, but they are already well into the design phase. They would have to start all over again to move the generator into the frunk. Doesn’t seem worth it to me.
Just doesn’t make sense. Too many complications putting it there and trying to run all production assembly on the same line
Same reason everyone builds giant houses. Keeps me employed but look at what they built in the 40’s/50’s and everyone made it work and that generation is/was more socially viable and well rounded
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Excellent point. I had a Tesla Model 3 as my first EV and quickly realized the frunk was great to have. Now I have a Rivian which has a very large frunk and is now a non-negotiable item for me when it comes to my next vehicle.
However, I think moving the harvester to the front could work and solve multiple ownership issues but a the sacrifice of space. A simple solution would be to make two different frunk configurations so BEV owners retain what they're use to, but the production cost of that would surely be too high in the beginning.
And it would seem to me making the vehicle similar widths was an effort to streamline building the vehicles on the line. By completely changing where the generator goes in the Terra you lose those efficiencies.
Agreed. They would have to literally re-invent the production assembly process to incorporate such a big difference in models and there is no way IMO that is going to be feasible for SM's production plan/budget.
That is an issue. Maybe a long haul package needs offered and it comes at a premium but gender moves to frunk and things slide and a larger fuel tank can be worked in then this improves the towing AND give the Terra long haul additional range. Win-win for those not quite needing 3/4 ton but need a bit more than 1/2 ton as range goes. Maybe get it to 600 miles per fill up
I believe Scout has moved the battery to the front know because its heavier. To balance out the Scouts, because towing was an issue with teh old format.
The tow rating is far more related to the Davis Dam test and cooling/power than the engine location. The teams are working to improve the numbers as much as they can.
Is there a YouTube video somewhere of this test, Jamie? I would love to see what this is. Thanks!
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