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  1. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    Since you decided to bring up "Freshman Economics" and condescend to the room, let’s actually look at the Graduate Level P&L statements, because your assumptions about where the money is going are demonstrably false. 1. The Myth of "Just Covering Costs" You stated: "If that were true...
  2. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    Healthy debate is good, and I respectfully disagree with your position. If you'd prefer not to be a part of this, you are welcome to no longer click on this particular thread.
  3. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    I genuinely appreciate this response. Having a suspension design engineer in the conversation is exactly what this thread needs—someone who sees the receipts. I’m not going to argue with you on the cost of tooling or castings because you live that reality every day, and I respect that expertise...
  4. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    First off, I want to say I genuinely empathize with the personal side of your post. I mentioned earlier that I’ve been through the wringer of family court myself. I know exactly what it feels like to have your financial future drained by lawyers and life circumstances. It’s brutal, and I’m sorry...
  5. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    I'll defer to my comment above this one as a pseudo response. "To a point." I think there's more to that subtle statement than you might realize!
  6. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    I appreciate the detailed response and the chart. You’ve laid out the "Hard Money" argument perfectly, and strictly in terms of currency devaluation, your math on gold is correct. But here is why that argument fails in the real world: *We don't buy cars with gold. We buy them with wages.*...
  7. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    Jamie, fair points all around. If the business plan is to start as a low-volume, high-quality manufacturer to ensure stability, I can respect that as a business decision. But that brings me to the pivotal question—one that goes beyond just Scout and speaks to why so many are frustrated with the...
  8. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    I think we are slightly talking past each other on the "Phase II" concept, so let me clarify exactly what I’m asking for. 1. I’m not asking for a "Scout Lite." When I talk about a $45k price point, I am not suggesting that Scout should build a smaller, less capable, or watered-down vehicle for...
  9. tomgillotti

    Is there anything SM could offer to get you to switch from EREV to BEV?

    Dropping my vote for the EREV (Harvester) option, hands down. I’ve been driving a full EV for the past 14 months, so I’m speaking from experience, not just theory. While I love the benefits (instant torque, home charging, low maintenance), the reality of relying on the current charging network...
  10. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    First, I want to say thank you again for engaging. It is incredibly rare for an OEM team member to step into the ring like this, and I genuinely appreciate the transparency. However, I want to address something that I see happening in the replies here. There is a lot of nodding along because...
  11. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    I don’t take the question as crass at all—it’s a fair question given the length of these replies! (More on that in a second). First, on the "100 Years of ICE" point: You are absolutely right that ICE has had a century of refinement. But I would argue that "100 years of progress" has actually...
  12. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    I hear you on the reservation count, but we need to be careful not to confuse "Interest" with "Commitment." The Conversion Reality: History shows that a $100 refundable deposit converts at a surprisingly low rate once the final price is revealed. • Tesla Cybertruck: Had 1M+ reservations...
  13. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    I love that you brought this up, because I relate to this more than you know. I used to own a 2013 Rubicon, lifted on 35s. I absolutely loved that thing. It was a beast. But here is the important context: In 2013, a Rubicon Unlimited had an MSRP of around $35,000. Even adjusted for inflation...
  14. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    First off, I want to say thank you for your response! I genuinely appreciate the transparency. It proves that Scout is listening, which is why we are all here. I accept your point about China’s subsidies ($47B is a staggering number) and I understand that you are fighting with one hand tied...
  15. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    I really appreciate the "boots on the ground" perspective. Since you’ve seen the metal in person and I haven't, I definitely defer to you on the physical presence of the truck. It sounds massive, which is exactly what we want. But I do want to push back gently on the idea that "Size" and...
  16. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    You make a great point about the danger of comparing specific vehicles. And frankly, I want to clarify my position because I think we are falling into a trap the industry wants us to fall into. I’m hesitant to compare the Scout to a Rivian, or even a Bronco, because that implies that their...
  17. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    You make a fair point about the timelines, but I want to step back from the specific comparisons (Rivian, etc.) because I think they distract from the root issue. The "New Normal" is the Problem My hesitation to accept the $60k price point isn't because I'm comparing it to a specific...
  18. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    That is a fair point, and I won't pretend the political headwinds aren't real. Tariffs, shifting regulations, and policy changes absolutely complicate the math. But here is my counter: A resilient business strategy cannot rely on "perfect political conditions" to succeed. If Scout’s ability...
  19. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    This is genuinely one of the best debates I’ve had anywhere, and I appreciate you challenging me on the timeline aspect. You’ve pinpointed the exact disconnect, but I think we are drawing opposite conclusions from it. 1. The "Time" Variable (Why 2027 Matters) You argued that I am trying to...
  20. tomgillotti

    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    We can certainly agree to disagree, but I think this exchange highlights exactly why I started this thread. You are analyzing the price based on the "Current Market" (what other overpriced EVs cost right now). I am analyzing the price based on "Fundamental Value" (what a vehicle should cost...
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