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  1. ritterf

    What If the Harvester Shed 1,000 lbs and Got Better? The Case for LTO + EA211-ERV

    Really appreciate the real-world data — that's exactly the kind of ground truth that matters more than theoretical specs. Your 86kW at 50mph downhill makes sense — that's a lot of kinetic energy to recover. But here's the thing: kinetic energy scales with velocity squared. At 20mph stop-and-go...
  2. ritterf

    What If the Harvester Shed 1,000 lbs and Got Better? The Case for LTO + EA211-ERV

  3. ritterf

    What If the Harvester Shed 1,000 lbs and Got Better? The Case for LTO + EA211-ERV

    is it that bad being an AI bot? Do tell us all about it. But as to what you are eluding too.. Yeah I use AI to help research and check my math. So does every engineer with a calculator. The numbers are either right or they're not — happy to be corrected on specifics.
  4. ritterf

    What If the Harvester Shed 1,000 lbs and Got Better? The Case for LTO + EA211-ERV

    The 800V question is worth addressing directly because it sounds like a gotcha but isn't. 800V architecture exists because NMC and LFP cells have relatively low nominal voltage — around 3.2–3.7V per cell. To get usable pack voltage you need a lot of cells in series. More cells means more...
  5. ritterf

    What If the Harvester Shed 1,000 lbs and Got Better? The Case for LTO + EA211-ERV

    The 4xe has two problems — NMC chemistry and parallel hybrid architecture. Neither applies here. NMC is the lightest lithium chemistry which is exactly why Jeep picked it — every pound matters for off-road geometry. The tradeoff is 1,000–2,500 cycles and a tendency to catch fire when the anode...
  6. ritterf

    What If the Harvester Shed 1,000 lbs and Got Better? The Case for LTO + EA211-ERV

    Something nobody's calculated yet — actual stop-and-go range accounting for real regen rates. 63kWh LFP caps regen at ~140kW before thermal clipping. On a 6,500lb truck at 20mph that's recovering maybe 50% of braking energy — and that number drops as the pack warms up through the day. 23kWh NTO...
  7. ritterf

    What If the Harvester Shed 1,000 lbs and Got Better? The Case for LTO + EA211-ERV

    For anyone who wants the primary source on the NTO chemistry — this is straight from Toshiba, June 2025: https://www.global.toshiba/ww/news/corporate/2025/06/news-20250604-01.html The headline specs: 130 Wh/kg energy density matching LFP, 80% charge in 10 minutes, 15,000 cycle lifespan, -30 to...
  8. ritterf

    What If the Harvester Shed 1,000 lbs and Got Better? The Case for LTO + EA211-ERV

    160,000 reservations is a great sign for Scout. It doesn't settle an engineering question. Boeing had 10,000 orders for the 737 MAX before the MCAS decisions became public. Institutional momentum and good engineering aren't the same thing. I'm not asking Scout to abandon four years of work...
  9. ritterf

    What If the Harvester Shed 1,000 lbs and Got Better? The Case for LTO + EA211-ERV

    My ideas are not being done because of government subsidies pushing KWH over performance. there has not been one serious critique that holds any water other than... that is what they already decided... Watch what happens when the first tow test and this goes into limp mode because at altitude...
  10. ritterf

    What If the Harvester Shed 1,000 lbs and Got Better? The Case for LTO + EA211-ERV

    well now I've learned of an even better tweak of chemistry. they bridge the gap between LTO and LFP. NTO with the SCIB Nb cells... the cells are larger then the 20ah ones I was calculating with before.. I've refined the math with the newest Niobium (NTO) specs. By using just 200 cells (23kWh)...
  11. ritterf

    What If the Harvester Shed 1,000 lbs and Got Better? The Case for LTO + EA211-ERV

    Please tell me the ideal customer use case then.
  12. ritterf

    What If the Harvester Shed 1,000 lbs and Got Better? The Case for LTO + EA211-ERV

    hahah, Based on? Not good for people who only drive 20-30 miles a day and 500-800 miles on a weekend a month? How am I excluded from the demographic? If a vehicle with 150 miles of electric range and a gas backup isn't for someone who drives 30 miles a day and 800 miles a weekend, who is it for...
  13. ritterf

    Battery only or harvester.. starting to rethink it.

    that R1 is a pretty nice place to be. Nice package. I was kind of between that and Grenadier.. but Scout came along and I figured I'd wait. home is not ready for charger... old panel..
  14. ritterf

    Battery only or harvester.. starting to rethink it.

    terrified another AI data center goes in and PGE decides to bump rates 10% because... Profits... not easy to go to another electricity provider or charging station... or maybe their is competition I don't know about.. again.. I need solar panels before I buy an pure EV
  15. ritterf

    What If the Harvester Shed 1,000 lbs and Got Better? The Case for LTO + EA211-ERV

    probably true, considering it sounds like they build the LFP factory to get federal credits and LFP is the cheapest way to get those credits. doesn't mean it makes a better product.
  16. ritterf

    What If the Harvester Shed 1,000 lbs and Got Better? The Case for LTO + EA211-ERV

    1. The Subsidy "Margin Hack" If it costs a manufacturer $80/kWh to produce an LFP cell and they get a $45/kWh tax credit (between the cell and module), the government is paying for over 50% of their battery cost. By doubling the battery size, they double the amount of "free" components in the...
  17. ritterf

    What If the Harvester Shed 1,000 lbs and Got Better? The Case for LTO + EA211-ERV

    LFP (65 kWh): With LFP pack costs falling below $100/kWh (averaging $81–$130/kWh), a 65kWh pack costs roughly $5,200 – $8,450. LTO (20 kWh): LTO costs remain high, often cited around $150–$200/kWh or higher (sometimes quoted at $1.6 per watt-hour). A 20kWh system likely costs $3,000 – $4,000+...
  18. ritterf

    What If the Harvester Shed 1,000 lbs and Got Better? The Case for LTO + EA211-ERV

    "LTO's aren't "etrash"? Any more info there?" LTO are 30 year type life span.. even with smaller more often deeper cycles... they don't care if they are drawn down to 0 volts for 5 years.. it would charge right back up.. LFP is dead if it ever goes below 2.5v per cell Over 20 years, the...
  19. ritterf

    What If the Harvester Shed 1,000 lbs and Got Better? The Case for LTO + EA211-ERV

    think about a battery only 80% capacity.. that is 200lbs of dead weight. not to mention the performance is not just total capacity it is C rate.. the older battery gets more and more sluggish.
  20. ritterf

    What If the Harvester Shed 1,000 lbs and Got Better? The Case for LTO + EA211-ERV

    It has come to my attention... EV manufactures get paid by government by how many Kwh they push to consumers.. the more weight they make us carry, they more they get paid. If Scout put a "better," smaller battery (like a high-efficiency 20 kWh pack) into the Harvester, they would lose out in...
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