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When will Scout® Vehicles be available for delivery?​

We expect customer deliveries of Harvester™ Range Extender (EREV) equipped vehicles to begin in 2028. Due to customer demand, Scout is also prioritizing Traveler™ SUV production first, with Terra™ pickup production to follow soon after. Please note that these timelines are subject to change.

Reservation and Order Notifications​

Reservation holders will receive notifications prior to the start of production. At this stage, they will have the opportunity to place their orders. Once an order is placed, an estimated delivery date will be provided. This process ensures that customers are informed and prepared for timely order placement.

Timing for Fulfilling Orders​

Order will be fulfilled based on the timing of when the original reservation was placed, as well as additional factors (e.g. model selected, geographic location, etc). Stay tuned for more delivery timing details as we approach the start of production.

 

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New or not, I haven’t seen it before. It all makes sense though. Everyday it gets just a little more real!

 

[RodorW]

I would say wording aside this feels like less of a delay in more of a “lock-in” on a timeline but that is because to me it doesn’t feel like the timeline has changed. It’s more concrete. While on the other hand, the one thing scout continues to do that bothers me from a company that had planned to launch as EV company they continue to mainly talk about the EREV and I know it’s because that I am a majority of reservation holders have selected the harvester model and as has been stated many other places across this forum, I feel it is mostly due to lack of knowledge and constant fear mongering around electric vehicles scout offering both could help educate the public and those interested for what truly will work for them, but in most media that has been produced, they seem to really lock in on the EREV and kind of ignore the all Electric mode. Even though for most people, it seems EREV‘s are the steppingstone until we have longer range all electric vehicles running on solid state or some other type of battery chemistry that doesn’t the greatest as fast and goes much further. And well at this point, I don’t intend to reclaim my reservation money and search elsewhere for an electric pick up truck. I just think it would be nice if in media and press Scout would recognize it. It’s all electric enthusiast and reservation holders.

 

[Warbirds]

It’s a delay. 2 weeks ago they were refuting it in the media and now Scout is trying to softly shape the message.

See it for what it is.

 

[RodorW]

It’s not really a delay. It’s more of a solidifying timeline. Maybe it’s the portions of the Internet I spend time in, but I feel like a genuine delay. Would be scout coming out and saying that there will be zero production on anything until late 2028 as of right now, nothing would be stopping them from starting production in late 27 and starting deliveries in 2028, which is realistically what most of us were expecting regardless

 

[Thavin4]

I anticipated deliveries to begin in 2028. Although the wording doesn't give comfort into when in 2028... so that's concerning. And the phrasing is telling me there's no prioritization or mention of BEV. This is highly disappointing. I am sold on the Scout, but if they prioritize EREV Traveler, then Terra, before moving to BEV based off $100 reservations alone that are refundable and low-stakes, I feel like they would be missing out and behind the power curve against competitors. They need to bring the BEV alongside with production, even if their primary push is EREV. @Jamie@ScoutMotors please say it ain't so!

 

[BartMan Terra Total EV]

So after they build x amount of Harvester Travelers then x amout of Terra Harvester then they start with x amount of Traveler EVs my guess is 2029 for my Terra EV. At this point and God willing and the creek don't rise we will be under a new administration. If this happens EV incentives will be ragging back. That 2028 Rivian is looking like were i will end up. I am loosing hope with the VW CEO so concerned with fricking tariffs and this DELAY my guess is we will be lucky to get 350 miles out of the Terra BEV. To much focus on the ice generator.

 

[speedrye]

I would say wording aside this feels like less of a delay in more of a “lock-in” on a timeline but that is because to me it doesn’t feel like the timeline has changed. It’s more concrete. While on the other hand, the one thing scout continues to do that bothers me from a company that had planned to launch as EV company they continue to mainly talk about the EREV and I know it’s because that I am a majority of reservation holders have selected the harvester model and as has been stated many other places across this forum, I feel it is mostly due to lack of knowledge and constant fear mongering around electric vehicles scout offering both could help educate the public and those interested for what truly will work for them, but in most media that has been produced, they seem to really lock in on the EREV and kind of ignore the all Electric mode. Even though for most people, it seems EREV‘s are the steppingstone until we have longer range all electric vehicles running on solid state or some other type of battery chemistry that doesn’t the greatest as fast and goes much further. And well at this point, I don’t intend to reclaim my reservation money and search elsewhere for an electric pick up truck. I just think it would be nice if in media and press Scout would recognize it. It’s all electric enthusiast and reservation holders.

On the flip side, the public is admittedly ignorant, but trying to educate the ignorants is usually off-putting to said ignorants, and Scout doesn't want to be off-putting to anyone if possible. Play the long game, get the ignorants in an EREV and once they see that even 150 miles of range does most of what they want to do on a daily basis, they'll be more likely to convert. Then Scout gets to sell them two vehicles hopefully.

 

[cyure]

Here’s my question. They can say this is what’s going to be made first, but isn’t it still somewhat order dependent. I’m assuming they would want to batch build things correct. So a certain model and a certain color would all go through at the same time.

Here’s all I have to say. Im in it for the long haul. My Jeep is fine. This is a want not at need at this point so when I get my Scout I get my Scout, but I wouldn’t complain if it was sooner rather than later.

 

[maynard]

On the flip side, the public is admittedly ignorant, but trying to educate the ignorants is usually off-putting to said ignorants, and Scout doesn't want to be off-putting to anyone if possible. Play the long game, get the ignorants in an EREV and once they see that even 150 miles of range does most of what they want to do on a daily basis, they'll be more likely to convert. Then Scout gets to sell them two vehicles hopefully.

Knowing what you want doesn't mean you're ignorant... Kinda harsh wouldn't you say?
I/we are reducing to a one car/one motorcycle family by 2028, we therefore decided upon EREV as it fits our needs best.

 

[speedrye]

Here’s my question. They can say this is what’s going to be made first, but isn’t it still somewhat order dependent. I’m assuming they would want to batch build things correct. So a certain model and a certain color would all go through at the same time.

Here’s all I have to say. Im in it for the long haul. My Jeep is fine. This is a want not at need at this point so when I get my Scout I get my Scout, but I wouldn’t complain if it was sooner rather than later.

Rivian did similar batching in the beginning with those wanting certain interior colors having to wait. I don't know if that was for simplicity or supplier issues however.

 

[Thavin4]

Here’s my question. They can say this is what’s going to be made first, but isn’t it still somewhat order dependent. I’m assuming they would want to batch build things correct. So a certain model and a certain color would all go through at the same time.

Here’s all I have to say. Im in it for the long haul. My Jeep is fine. This is a want not at need at this point so when I get my Scout I get my Scout, but I wouldn’t complain if it was sooner rather than later.

I would like to think so too, but my worry is they don't go in to BEV and just stick with it EREV/bail. I'd like a Scout sooner than later, but Rivian has been around awhile and just enticing if they don't co-build... Scout is basing this decision off the majority of reservations being EREV. It is a low-stakes $100 refundable deposit. When were those reservations made? Before more details of how the EREV worked came out? How informed or focused are those reservation holders on the changes with EREV that would maybe have caused them to change their reservation to BEV? This is a concerning business move from my perspective.

 

[speedrye]

Knowing what you want doesn't mean you're ignorant... Kinda harsh wouldn't you say?
I/we are reducing to a one car/one motorcycle family by 2028, we therefore decided upon EREV as it fits our needs best.

I want an EREV as well, but I recognize much (not all) of the population is ignorant of EV stuff.

 

[cyure]

Knowing what you want doesn't mean you're ignorant... Kinda harsh wouldn't you say?
I/we are reducing to a one car/one motorcycle family by 2028, we therefore decided upon EREV as it fits our needs best.

I keep saying I hope everyone gets what they want and I mean it. If EREV is what you want, excellent. If it’s BEV great. We all still are Scout enthusiasts and there’s no reason for any division! One isn’t better than the other per se, they are just different and people have different needs.

 

[RodorW]

I anticipated deliveries to begin in 2028. Although the wording doesn't give comfort into when in 2028... so that's concerning. And the phrasing is telling me there's no prioritization or mention of BEV. This is highly disappointing. I am sold on the Scout, but if they prioritize EREV Traveler, then Terra, before moving to BEV based off $100 reservations alone that are refundable and low-stakes, I feel like they would be missing out and behind the power curve against competitors. They need to bring the BEV alongside with production, even if their primary push is EREV. @Jamie@ScoutMotors please say it ain't so!

This is also the thing that doesn’t make a lot of sense to me given the wording it’s fair and easy to assume that they will batch people together based on what they have currently reserved being traveler first along with harvester models however nobody has to lock in on anything until scout sends them the offer to place their order in full, so what if people have placed their reservation for the harvester model but come to the determination that they would rather go all Electric or knowing that they have chosen harvester to get in early, but will choose all Electric at the final stage is scout going to tell them that they can’t accept their order or is scout going to take their money and tell them it’s gonna be a bit

 

[cyure]

This is also the thing that doesn’t make a lot of sense to me given the wording it’s fair and easy to assume that they will batch people together based on what they have currently reserved being traveler first along with harvester models however nobody has to lock in on anything until scout sends them the offer to place their order in full, so what if people have placed their reservation for the harvester model but come to the determination that they would rather go all Electric or knowing that they have chosen harvester to get in early, but will choose all Electric at the final stage is scout going to tell them that they can’t accept their order or is scout going to take their money and tell them it’s gonna be a bit

That’s a good question.

 

[6-ScoutFamily]

Everyone just take a breath… In…. Out… In… Out…

Or in the words of Sandra Bullock, “Enhance your calm John Spartan”.

 

[cyure]

Everyone just take a breath… In…. Out… In… Out…

Or in the words of Sandra Bullock, “Enhance your calm John Spartan”.

FAITH AND PATIENCE (and a little PBY) for good measure.

 

[TelemarkingSailor]

The EREV vs BEV debate on this forum is sort of like the 75mm vs NTN debate on the telemark forums I follow (Free Your Heel, Ski for Real!). I guess every tribe eventually grows into multiple camps.

I imagine that when the Venn diagram of "Scout Enthusiasts" and "Decarbonation Supporters" is drawn, there will be a substantial intersection with relatively narrower bands outside the intersection. That's fine, that's cool. While we wait for 2028 to arrive, I found this podcast to be very interesting: https://www.volts.wtf/p/the-fate-of-fossil-fuel-systems-in It goes deep on a recently published study of how we all mostly imagine a graph indicating electrification to be going slowly, steadily up, while fossil fuel usage is slowly, steadily going down. More than likely, it won't happen like that. The transition will be lumpy. It will be inefficient. It will likely cost everyone more time and treasure than it should.

So, if you want to drive your first (new) Scout for 20 years, then get a BEV because eventually it will be harder and harder to find a gas station and you'll be carting around a tank and an engine it will be hard to find fuel for. But, if you are like most Americans and will probably buy your second (new) Scout within about 5-10 years of your first, you'll probably be OK starting with an EREV and then switching to a BEV.

What would be super cool is if Scout Motors designed a retrofit system that could allow for a Gen 1 EREV to be retrofitted to full BEV one day. Maybe by then, we'll have super capacity solid state batteries and it will just be a matter of removing the engine and hooking the leads to a new controller sitting on top of a battery pack that is also connected to a battery pack that replaced the fuel tank. (Although, let's face it, probably easier and more profitable to sell customers a new car than a retrofit kit).

 

[THil08]

It’s not really a delay. It’s more of a solidifying timeline. Maybe it’s the portions of the Internet I spend time in, but I feel like a genuine delay. Would be scout coming out and saying that there will be zero production on anything until late 2028 as of right now, nothing would be stopping them from starting production in late 27 and starting deliveries in 2028, which is realistically what most of us were expecting regardless

Yeah. the who delay crap needs to stop. this is just a more firm timeline of production.