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    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    You are technically correct that the Scout’s wheelbase (120.4") is nearly identical to the Chevy Tahoe’s (120.9"), but using that metric to classify it as a "Full Size" SUV is misleading. In off-road engineering, you push the wheels to the absolute corners to maximize approach and departure...
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    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    1. The "Ramcharger is confused" Myth You claimed the Ramcharger is delayed because "they just can't figure out the technology." That is demonstrably false. Ram CEO Tim Kuniskis explicitly stated in interviews (e.g., Road & Track, June 2025) that the delays were a "strictly business decision"...
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    Rivian just announced new Ai chip for level 4 autonomous driving

    RJ Scaringe was pretty explicit in his recent interviews (specifically around Autonomy Day) regarding the VW partnership. He clarified that the current deal covers the electrical architecture, zonal controllers, and network software—basically the "nervous system" of the car. However, he...
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    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    1. "Why won't I answer?" I didn't "refuse" to answer; I likely missed the question buried in the thread. But frankly, I wouldn't answer because it is completely irrelevant. This isn't a job interview. It’s a discussion about pricing and market data. You don't need to be a Michelin Star chef to...
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    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    I’m glad you brought up the specific numbers, because when you actually do the math, they prove my point, not yours. 1. The "Rivian Math" (You just proved my case). You claimed Scout promised to be "$20k less than Rivian." • Fact: The 2025 Rivian R1T starts at $71,700. • The Math: $71,700...
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    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    With respect, treating a corporation's opening statement on pricing as absolute truth is a strategic mistake for any consumer. Of course Scout says $45k isn't realistic right now; they are a business trying to anchor expectations high to maximize their initial margins. It is their job to tell us...
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    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    If we are going to compare "apples to apples," we need to look at the whole orchard, not just the two most expensive fruits you could find. You mention Rivian is "still around," but that is a very low bar for success. Rivian is a luxury lifestyle brand that is still burning billions of dollars...
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    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    With all due respect, what AI told you is not a valid argument when we have a physical tape measure that says otherwise. You can ask a chatbot whatever you want, but the physical specs are public, and they confirm that the Scout Traveler is ~191 inches long. For context, the new Toyota 4Runner...
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    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    It isn't a game. It’s my wallet. And regarding the speed: It doesn't take long to type this stuff out when you live it every day. I didn't have to Google the Tesla price drops or the median income numbers—I know them cold because I’m the guy out here trying to make the math work for my family...
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    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    I appreciate the "legit question," so let me give you a legit answer. 1. The "Employee Pay" Straw Man You asked: "Are you willing to take a loss of your pay every year...?" This is a classic false equivalence. Lowering the price of a product does not require lowering the wages of the people...
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    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    You don't need "sources from places I have zero access to" to understand vehicle segments; you just need a tape measure and the specs listed right on the Scout website. You are claiming this is a "Full Size SUV" to justify the luxury pricing, but the math simply doesn't support that. The Chevy...
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    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    "What planet am I on?" Planet Earth. And on this planet, the data disagrees with you entirely. 1. $60k is NOT "Entry Level" (The Data). You claim $60k is "midrange bordering on standard entry." • Fact Check: The Average Transaction Price (ATP) for a new vehicle in the US is roughly $48,000...
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    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    "Bud." You can keep the condescension. I’m not your "bud"—I’m the customer this brand needs if it wants to sell more than 50,000 units a year. 1. The "Collapse" Theory vs. Economic Reality You claim my idea (Target Pricing) would "collapse Scout on Day 1." • Reality: High volume is what...
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    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    "The Spirit of Christmas?" No, just the Spirit of Solvency. By "us," I mean the millions of Americans who built this country’s car culture but are currently being priced out of it. If you want to shrink that group down to just the people in this thread who are happy to pay $60k, go ahead. But...
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    Don't let the Scout become a status symbol; why $60k misses the point of the Revival

    "Blend in with the crowd." That is exactly the attitude that got us into this mess. The reason truck prices have spiraled out of control is precisely because too many people were willing to "blend in," keep their heads down, and sign the check for whatever number the dealer slid across the...
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